Delays Iro The Ict Charter

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"It is unfortunate that these individuals under the conveniently established “regulated sector” (distinctly represented by individuals from Telkom, MTN and Multichoice) streamer have now seen fit to hold the process to ransom unless their distended egos and self-centred ambitions, however misguided these may be, are massaged at the expense of the very intended beneficiaries of transformation."

Mr. Khaas is not as 'accommodating' as the previous time :D
 
Man, that was a difficult read !

After wading through it, I came out the other side wondering if everything in that article could not have been stated in a single paragraph.
 
Wonder what's aroused his pique this time? All I can read from the article is that he's going on about Telkrap, MTN and Multichoice not signing a document. Anybody got any insight into what's caused the tirade?
 
LOL - Yip - classic case of misuse of the english language.
Summary =
The SMME Forum requests that the Minister review the time being spent by Telkom, MTN and Multichoice on the ICT Charter, preferably by setting a "must be completed by" date that Telkom, MTN and Multichoice must abide with.
The SMME Forum also insults Telkom, MTN and Multichoice's tactics and way of doing things.
The SMME Forum would like to add that there will be teething problems, and teething problems are not a reason to keep the process stalled.

The minister of communication, or anybody else, will not be able to decode these requests from our mumbo jumbo press release, but, the article sounds high tech and clever, as we never actually say bad things, or make specific requests, and therefore have prooven ourselves to be better than Telkom, MTN and Multichoice's, thereby strengthening our case.

Stuupid freeking idiots. No wonder it's taking so long.
 
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:eek: what on earth was that press release :confused: ???

All I can say is that I prefer to eat kaas when it's microwaved & on toast/bread.
 
I must agree, it went on about something. Not quite sure what, but it was something to with Telkom, MTN and so on :p

That is one of the worst written articles I have read for a while. Biased as hell.
 
stunned by the mybroadband vituperation in response to his previous brown-nosing, and inspired by the writing of the ANC Youth League, the big cheese proceeds to get a deathgrip on the wrong end of the stick

he refers to the last working draft - as far as i know the final draft was released may 2004 and implementation was 1 march...not sure but maybe this was derailed during the VANS licence hearings when there was an argument that the BEE requirements of the proposed licences were heavier than the general legislation....see http://www.itweb.co.za/sections/business/2005/0501131130.asp?A=BLE&S=Black Empowerment &O=FPT where they were sticking to the 1 march date as late as 13 January

fascinating how he cannot bring himself to blame the telkom (and others "conveniently" grouped as the regulated sector) mandarins and fatcats but rather the mercernaries etc etc who are running riot and derailing the charter process....er wake up and smell it buddy
 
Whatever Mr Kaas was melting on about there in that microwave ovened press release, one thing is sure - he has burnt those bridges he once had upon a time as a top member of Telkomonopoly management...:rolleyes:
 
Okay, i understand so i shall explain.

One has to grasp the ultimate goal of Broad based BEE. It is to empower the dispempowered but one of the key's neccesary to instigate within the minds of the major players the conviction to set upon it's path, a liberated economy with sufficient capacity to house the ambitions of all it's stakeholders, namely, it's citizens, is the combined participation of these very major players.
One has to understand that in economics we speak of rent seeking, whereby organisations direct resources into maintaining their own positions and protect it from anything that might be percieved as a threat. These very organisations which form part of the 'regulated' sector has been utilisng these terms as to shy away from anything that might actively aim to support SMME's, thus creating an enviroment that gives rise to multitudes of challenges and activities that might and most probably, will eat away at market share.

Now, to differentiatet between the support for Telkom, and the attack on Telkom.

With the support, it was being made clear that the strategy of liberalisation cannot be achieved without valid control over the liberation process in order to feed into the objectives of BEE. Liberalisation would effectively benefit the few and the perviously disdavantaged would be excluded from actively participating in the sector as a result of a mindset that still haunts the psyche of certain individuals within our economy. We could do it the easy way and declare war, but we choose to be tactfull and implement strategic variations on the process via the Charter, and many programs like it, and thus we hit upon the attack, because what is being attacked is an elites tendency to rent seek at the cost of furthering the disempowerement of the masses.

I hope that explained it.
 
Liansky said:
One has to grasp the ultimate goal of Broad based BEE. It is to empower the dispempowered but one of the key's neccesary to instigate within the minds of the major players the conviction to set upon it's path, a liberated economy with sufficient capacity to house the ambitions of all it's stakeholders, namely, it's citizens, is the combined participation of these very major players.
One has to understand that in economics we speak of rent seeking, whereby organisations direct resources into maintaining their own positions and protect it from anything that might be percieved as a threat. These very organisations which form part of the 'regulated' sector has been utilisng these terms as to shy away from anything that might actively aim to support SMME's, thus creating an enviroment that gives rise to multitudes of challenges and activities that might and most probably, will eat away at market share.

Now, to differentiatet between the support for Telkom, and the attack on Telkom.

With the support, it was being made clear that the strategy of liberalisation cannot be achieved without valid control over the liberation process in order to feed into the objectives of BEE. Liberalisation would effectively benefit the few and the perviously disdavantaged would be excluded from actively participating in the sector as a result of a mindset that still haunts the psyche of certain individuals within our economy. We could do it the easy way and declare war, but we choose to be tactfull and implement strategic variations on the process via the Charter, and many programs like it, and thus we hit upon the attack, because what is being attacked is an elites tendency to rent seek at the cost of furthering the disempowerement of the masses.
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Okay I get that and I get what the cheeseness is saying and i agree with much of the theory of bbbeee. It is also fair to say that the major portion of economic ownership still divides across race lines. My point is that the smme cheese is tripping over the need to vocalise both an economic (bbbeee with full socialist trippings) as well as a racial agenda. And the latter, in this specific case, is not valid. He attempts to draw a racial line between the new ownership of telkom as against "nefarious" agents of the old order employed by it but ignores the fact that capital behaves as capital irrespective of the race of the owner. This is what we are seeing in telkom etc in the way in which they deal with all threats against them.

By all means attack the elite but this is just shallow political opportunism which is really not constructive.

"We could do it the easy way and declare war"...careful who you speak for
 
Liansky said:
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I hope that explained it.
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Actually not at all, but I do think economics is not the career for you Liansky, seriously you get 100% on the politician's aptitude test - politics is clearly your destiny my friend, follow it pasionately ;).
 
economic theory == politics;
applied economics == bbbeee;
At the end of the day, those who indulge in either may be seen to be homogenous, though I suppose a necessary component of our dynamic society...
 
My g*d but Mr Khaas knows how to overuse the Thesaurus in Ms Word! The object in writing a press release is to make it clear and simple for everyone to read. I cannot and will not waste time trying to make sense of his dictionary-dump. Thanks to all who clarified the wall of words. Mr Khaas, stop tying to sound educated and clever and just make sense for a change..
 
Ah cr@p. Sorry RPM, but even that response article doesn't clear the matter up in my small mind. I still want to know what exactly caused the Khaas position, other than the non-signing of a document...
 
mbs said:
...I still want to know what exactly caused the Khaas position, other than the non-signing of a document...
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Was it a full moon? - I thought I heard some cheesy howling the other night, thought it was a neighbour's dog, now I'm having 2nd thoughts...
 
Hmmm... Just saw this in today's Business Report:

The SMME forum has accused representatives of Telkom, MTN and Multichoice of frustrating the process by disputing the composition of the ICT charter council, which will monitor the charter.
The forum says representatives of Telkom, MTN and Multichoice "do not want people from the ICT industry to serve on the council".

Ah... now it makes sense! Seems as if the SMME Forum wanted representation on the Council, but some of the yokels from the three entities mentioned felt threatened by this, and decided to put a spanner in the works, so to speak. Interesting... methinx there's hidden agendas at work here, hence the vagueness of the accusations/responses. Ag, what the hell - it's not really relevant to me, and it seems I'm becoming just as much of a nutter as that WiFi chap with the cape and underpants on the outside...
 
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Dominic, i'm not gonna go into detail, but i'll say this much. A situation arises from element A. If the situation is unfavourable, one seeks to eliminate the situation via element A, because the very cause of the situation is element A itself, or an element within element A. Point being, you can't break down an unfavourable system without acknowledging the cause, because ultimately, without acknowledging the cause, one does not have the required tools to break down the unfavourable system.
 
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