Delphi, MS-Office exclusivity in SA schools reversed

With regards to puns and Code, methinx we can Churn these out all night... It all just depends on our Perspective
 
Get rid of Delphi. Its just not used anymore. It may give a programming knowledge but in the real world Delphi is dead.
 
Bern said:
Ideally the choices for IT curriculum should ensure kids:
1) learn the basic principles of the function of the program
2) will have easy access to the software during and after learning (no prohibitive license costs)
3) should be somewhat agnostic of specific vendor platforms (to avoid the problem of the vendor going bang)
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And there we have it, THAT is what it is about. Everyone here is arguing the merits of Delphi as a language, but no one is arguing whether it is appropriate in a country where accessibility to free and open software is MUCH MORE IMPORTANT!. Delphi is NOT FREE, period. Why are we arguing this? You can't expect students to buy Delphi licenses , the ones that are going to excel in programming in school is NOT going to learn Delphi, i can guarantee you that. They are going to pick up whatever the rest of the internet is making available for free and with alot of community support. Delphi falls flat in both those!

It's just so stupid to isolate students from the rest of the world by "forcing" Delphi, it's beyond me. Today's kids have access to the internet, they can read, they are on forums, do you think they are going to find people actively discussing Delphi or Java/Python? Take a guess...

So while even i did Delphi at some point, it's not a bad language, you will certainly get the job done if need be. Delphi is just not the "tool" to use in an environment where you want students to explore and learn beyond Delphi without breaking the bank and with an entire planet to support them. This is where Delphi is "dead", you will search much longer to find the tools/tricks/assistance on Delphi to do a given thing, than say Java.

Personally i would still consider Python as a good introductory language, it's free, it's easy to understand, there's a ton of support online for it and there's endless things you can do with it.
 
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Flojo said:
Came across this

Computer Science Education:
Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
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That's the biggest problem we're facing. We're sitting with an overload of C#/Java programmers who can only write high-level (and often sloppy) code. Programmers have no idea of basic CS concepts, discrete maths (and linear algebra), common algorithms, or data structures anymore.

The other problem we're facing is that programmers no longer write code, they copy code. If I had to ask 99% of programmers to write a piece of code which multiplies two matrices, they'd have to go and copy the 5-7 lines of code it would take to write.
 
Bar0n said:
That's the biggest problem we're facing. We're sitting with an overload of C#/Java programmers who can only write high-level (and often sloppy) code. Programmers have no idea of basic CS concepts, discrete maths (and linear algebra), common algorithms, or data structures anymore.

The other problem we're facing is that programmers no longer write code, they copy code. If I had to ask 99% of programmers to write a piece of code which multiplies two matrices, they'd have to go and copy the 5-7 lines of code it would take to write.
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Nope... Far from it; for the US I'd agree, but SA issues are far from that advanced.

The ANC idiots are completely flailing when it comes to anything related to technology and software engineering. As example: maths literacy was introduced to reduce the number of people failing real maths and/or to try to make maths more approachable for all. All though this sounds like it could be a good idea; it wasn't -- the outcome has leant more to a general "dumbing down" of SA wrt technology / maths, certainly not what this country needs.

Ignoring private schools for the moment, SA kids at school gain non of the precursors for scientific, mathematical and / or logic pursuits -- which in the medium to long run is the only sustainable way for SA to pull itself out of the volatility of a economy that's so singularly focused on a dwindling mineral supply.
 
[)roi(];11797320 said:
Nope... Far from it; for the US I'd agree, but SA issues are far from that advanced.

The ANC idiots are completely flailing when it comes to anything related to technology and software engineering. As example: maths literacy was introduced to reduce the number of people failing real maths and/or to try to make maths more approachable for all. All though this sounds like it could be a good idea; it wasn't -- the outcome has leant more to a general "dumbing down" of SA wrt technology / maths, certainly not what this country needs.

Ignoring private schools for the moment, SA kids at school gain non of the precursors for scientific, mathematical and / or logic pursuits -- which in the medium to long run is the only sustainable way for SA to pull itself out of the volatility of a economy that's so singularly focused on a dwindling mineral supply.
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I could not agree more. And then you read

Matric not trusted
 
Flojo said:
I could not agree more. And then you read

Matric not trusted
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That's terrible!

FFS far worse than I ever could have imagined; especially the ridiculously low pass requirements.

So it's not only a dumbing down of the curriculum; they've also chosen to lower pass rates to laughable levels.

What's next -- matriculation based on attendance.
 
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