Discovery Vitality reducing activity goals after backlash

Rouxenator said:
JFC, so everyone must pay the same despite me being healthy and never claiming and the next guy who is so fat and unhealthy he can't even wipe his own rear passage?

Be that as it may, I still feel they can do a better job with rewarding low risk clients. Firstly it should not be an additional opt-in scheme like vitality and secondly it should use real currency, not points.
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So I'd also prefer more actual cash back but the whole theory behind vitality is to get people to decrease their expense to the scheme. Is the case of Health, it is by exercising more to decrease sickness related expenses.

Example:
You & Mr. Fat Joe public pay the same premium for the same 'potential' health insurance benefits.
You are healthy and exercise thus reducing your heath costs, saving Discovery money!
But Mr. Fat Joe public is not health and claims more that he pays.
If there are more Fat Joes than Healthy Rouxs, Discovery needs to up the premiums to cover the average cost.
If there are less Fat Joes then the premium *could* come down (assuming Doctors and Hospitals didn't rape the medial aid schemes, see the cost of a doctors visit if you have medical vs if you don't).

With Vitality cash back and rewards offering, Discovery is trying to get Fat Joe exercising to decrease their costs by rewarding Fat Joe with immediate gratification (smoothies and such).

But Vitality is more than just that it's the integrator between all their services. i.e. Card, Car, Health, Life etc. and rewards you for reducing your risk to them.
So if you have Car insurance with them, but take the Guatrain or Uber, your are not driving your car, thus reducing risk, so you get cash back rewards.
Going on Holiday reduces your stress, so cash back rewards etc.

It's actually quite well thought out.
But Discovery is still expensive. :confused:
 
Good, makes sense. But how about not having to pay for Vitality? Or even having to refer to it as a separate entity? What if all of the things vitality does is just part of your normal scheme? You don't have to use it, but you can if you want to.
 
Napalm2880 said:
Making the weekly goals impossible to reach only encourages cheating. I hope they learn this the hard way.
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This! And while people complain about weekly goals.. Fit people doing races got hit the worse as events nowadays give 90% less
 
There are a few folks at the office that get their weekly goals. They almost do next to nothing compared to me. I think they ride to work three times a week and it is less than 10km.
 
Rouxenator said:
There are a few folks at the office that get their weekly goals. They almost do next to nothing compared to me. I think they ride to work three times a week and it is less than 10km.
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Hrm.. But cycling outside of timed events give little points
 
Napalm2880 said:
Making the weekly goals impossible to reach only encourages cheating. I hope they learn this the hard way.
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The want, and actively encourage, us to wear heart rate monitor. With a heart rate monitor the goals will stay within range
 
ab-user said:
The want, and actively encourage, us to wear heart rate monitor. With a heart rate monitor the goals will stay within range
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I can't wear a heart rate monitor while swimming. The only devices that makes sense to use while swimming is in the 11k range that capture useful heart rate data and swimming metrics.
 
ab-user said:
The want, and actively encourage, us to wear heart rate monitor. With a heart rate monitor the goals will stay within range
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If you run. There's no way I can manage 80% heart rate for 30 mins when lifting. Hell, even when running 80% is difficult for me to manage for 30 minutes.
 
Kerrits said:
If you run. There's no way I can manage 80% heart rate for 30 mins when lifting. Hell, even when running 80% is difficult for me to manage for 30 minutes.
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Agreed, 80% is flippin ridiculous if lifting. Still going to give them hell on what I think of them, i just haven't had time to write a coherent post on their FB page.
 
Heart rate is not very accurate. I did a 56km MTB ride yesterday and while I did put in a few fast segments I could tell me heart rate was a lot faster than normal. In fact I hard to stop at times which I never do. All that because I am coming down with a cold or flu or something. It's not advisable to do any form of cardio workout then but if all they are focusing on is heart rate I could kill myself getting points.
 
Is anyone having issues with polar and strava training sessions not showing/syncing? Ive uploaded workouts to polar yesterday and the day before with none of it reflecting... It worked before :?
 
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