Dissapointed with IOS 7

[[)roi(]]

There was an interview with Ive and Federighi where Ive said that with something like the fingerprint sensor, it's the kind of thing where an engineer would have wanted to make a huge spectacle of it. They would have added in flashing buttons and big SUCCESS indicators and make a big swirly animation or something; and stripping that stuff out while the core engineering work was still so extraordinarily powerful, makes for a better user experience. I think that's part of why nobody recognizes revolution when they see it happening in an Apple product; it's concealed in a package that looks like something ordinary and inevitable. iPad = big iPod Touch. Like...what's the big deal? Until the world's PC manufacturers wake up and see their bottom lines being slashed because everyone's opting for tablets.

Appropriately the better decision.

Especially if you consider just how weird overdoing glitz could be

 

[RichardG]

Why does this always happen when a new iOS gets released to the general public for download, always bugs/little minor things that need fixing.. Don't they have beta testers at Apple HQ who only specialize in helping the developers on bugs etc

 

[[)roi(]]

Why does this always happen when a new iOS gets released to the general public for download, always bugs/little minor things that need fixing.. Don't they have beta testers at Apple HQ who only specialize in helping the developers on bugs etc

Btw this is not a singular Apple problem. I'm sure you've heard the phrase that to avoid the bleeding edge wait for the first major update (for example: with Microsoft this was always their 1st service pack)

Development is hard, and finding bugs even more difficult + many developers don't make great testers as they just tend to push all the right buttons (limited negative testing) and even with a dedicated test team, which all large corporates including Apple would have, bugs can still slip through.

Extra months of testing don't guarantee a bug free product. Basically they develop test scenarios for the developed code, and once that and the bugs logged by the developer community have been fixed the product is ready to release to the public.

Bug free it's probably not (but it did exhaust the set of eyes in Apple and the greater developer community)

 

[iceman23]

ios7 runs like a dog on my iphone 4. thank f*#k its only my backup phone and only use it to make calls (not even receive). My HTC one is far superior.

 

[[)roi(]]

ios7 runs like a dog on my iphone 4. thank f*#k its only my backup phone and only use it to make calls (not even receive). My HTC one is far superior.

It runs fairly ok on mine?

Don't you think it's a little strange to compare the HTC one to iPhone 4? Surely an iPhone 5, 5C or 5S would be more appropriate?

 

[vinodh]

I still don't like the pastel colors, there is some lag now and then on my iPad 3, changing wallpapers causes the iPad to freeze for a while, Airdrop caused my iPhone to display a bunch of vertical stripes and then suddenly restart and a few other niggles. Just like with previous versions of iOS, I'm confident that most of the bugs will be fixed with an update that should be out soon.

One other thing I noticed yesterday is that the keyboard when using Spotlight is black but the keyboard in Safari is white. I prefer the black keyboard, actually.

Overall, it's a decent upgrade but it's nothing really special for me. There's no killer feature that forced me to upgrade: just the usual Compulsive Upgrade Disorder.

 

[Brenden_E]

There was an interview with Ive and Federighi where Ive said that with something like the fingerprint sensor, it's the kind of thing where an engineer would have wanted to make a huge spectacle of it. They would have added in flashing buttons and big SUCCESS indicators and make a big swirly animation or something; and stripping that stuff out while the core engineering work was still so extraordinarily powerful, makes for a better user experience. I think that's part of why nobody recognizes revolution when they see it happening in an Apple product; it's concealed in a package that looks like something ordinary and inevitable. iPad = big iPod Touch. Like...what's the big deal? Until the world's PC manufacturers wake up and see their bottom lines being slashed because everyone's opting for tablets.

Fingerprint sensor revolutionary? To see Apple's marketing hit a bulls eye on poor souls like you is poetry in motion.

 

[Azimuth]

I'm very impressed with iOS 7 thus far - devices are iPhone 5 and iPad 4. Overall the global updates are going down very nicely.

 

[RichardG]

One other thing I noticed yesterday is that the keyboard when using Spotlight is black but the keyboard in Safari is white. I prefer the black keyboard, actually.

Same here prefer the black keyboard, noticed four different colour schemes on keyboard alone. Safari,Twitter,blue colour and the black colour I did see was searching on google if it is possible to change the colour scheme on the keyboard unfortunately you cannot.

Noticed on my iPad 3 is starting to become unresponsive and lagging a lot which is quiet irritating and my moms iPad is moaning and complaining cause of the browser but they cover themselves so well with a disclaimer when upgrading to the latest iOS

 

[RoosTa]

Well one thing Apple have said repeatedly is that marketshare is the single most important metric by which they judge their success.

But here's the thing that gets me. Android hasn't added anything significantly new since 2011 with ICS. 4.1 was about getting rid of the jank (innovation!), 4.2 and 4.3 were pretty negligible. Some notifications tweaks, a lot of backend stuff, but the core OS didn't change at all. And the basic Android UI is bare and boring and ugly. Even with customisations, all you're doing is creating a nice, static homescreen. There's no physics engine, no gaussian blurs or overarching theme, no delightful small touches, just barebones icons and swipes. So where's all this heady innovation that Apple needs to catch up with? They'll never add widgets or custom theming. They make enough of an effort to make the core experience excellent that it's not something they would consider doing; philosophically it's completely against their principles.

I must call you out on this statement:


4.1 Introduced Google Now and "Project Butter"
4.2 Added a new Linux kernel, Photo Sphere Panoramas and multiple user accounts (tablets)
4.3 Improved battery life substantially and adds OpenGL ES 3.0

Apple hasn't changed the UI since IOS 1.0 and you are complaining about Android not changing their UI in 3 minor version updates? You are being hypocritical.

IOS 6.0.1
Bug fixes
IOS 6.0.2
Bug fixes
IOS 6.1
Some minor changes to Siri (doesn't work with iPad 2), Larger "Report a problem button"
IOS 6.1.1
Bug fixes
IOS 6.1.2
Bug fixes
IOS 6.1.3
Bug fixes
IOS 6.1.4
Bug fixes

Anyways, I love my android phone and I also love my iPad. I just can't help feel that Apple 'borrowed' all the new UI principles from google this time around.

 

[Way69]

I love iOS 7 on my iPhone, its beautiful. I unlock my phone just to look at it. Not so great on my iPad 2, looks good but its a bit laggy. Looking to upgrade the iPad though when the new mini is released.

 

[Way69]

I must call you out on this statement:


4.1 Introduced Google Now and "Project Butter"
4.2 Added a new Linux kernel, Photo Sphere Panoramas and multiple user accounts (tablets)
4.3 Improved battery life substantially and adds OpenGL ES 3.0

Apple hasn't changed the UI since IOS 1.0 and you are complaining about Android not changing their UI in 3 minor version updates? You are being hypocritical.

IOS 6.0.1
Bug fixes
IOS 6.0.2
Bug fixes
IOS 6.1
Some minor changes to Siri (doesn't work with iPad 2), Larger "Report a problem button"
IOS 6.1.1
Bug fixes
IOS 6.1.2
Bug fixes
IOS 6.1.3
Bug fixes
IOS 6.1.4
Bug fixes

Anyways, I love my android phone and I also love my iPad. I just can't help feel that Apple 'borrowed' all the new UI principles from google this time around.

To be fair, Android has been playing the borrowing game a lot longer ;-)

 

[bwana]

Finally got around to loading iOS7 on to my iPad3 - had it on my iPhone 5 since the early betas - and so far so good. i disabled the parallax, just like I had on my iPhone as soon as the update completed so perhaps that helped.

 

[Crowley]

There is one hidden feature nobody has mentioned yet...

 

[Way69]

Despite what a lot of forum users think I don't hate Apple. I hate the way they feel the need to control everything you do and how you do it on your phone. They make a very nice phone (even if the screen is so small). What I don't get is why when Apple does something it is considered to be OMG AWESOMESAUCE!!!

- Control center.
- App auto update
- Multitasking
- Camera filters
- Airdrop (S beam, although it is a Samsung thing so it was only a gimmick until Apple did it)
- Safari (Buttons and bars — like the unified smart search field — stay hidden until you scroll to reveal them. - Just like Chrome)
- Night mode for maps
- Time stamps for your messages
- Block calls and messages

Some of these are things that Android users have been taking for granted for years now.

The revolutionary features werent talked about that much.

64 bit is something quite significant and so is iBeacons, they're laying a lot of groundwork right now that will pay dividends later on.

 

[biometrics]

Finally got around to loading iOS7 on to my iPad3 - had it on my iPhone 5 since the early betas - and so far so good. i disabled the parallax, just like I had on my iPhone as soon as the update completed so perhaps that helped.

Did my iPad 3 a few days ago too. Don't really see what the fuss is about.

 

[Rocket-Boy]

Well one thing Apple have said repeatedly is that marketshare is the single most important metric by which they judge their success.

But here's the thing that gets me. Android hasn't added anything significantly new since 2011 with ICS. 4.1 was about getting rid of the jank (innovation!), 4.2 and 4.3 were pretty negligible. Some notifications tweaks, a lot of backend stuff, but the core OS didn't change at all. And the basic Android UI is bare and boring and ugly. Even with customisations, all you're doing is creating a nice, static homescreen. There's no physics engine, no gaussian blurs or overarching theme, no delightful small touches, just barebones icons and swipes. So where's all this heady innovation that Apple needs to catch up with? They'll never add widgets or custom theming. They make enough of an effort to make the core experience excellent that it's not something they would consider doing; philosophically it's completely against their principles.

Cool story bro. Please tell me how the apple flat desktop with icons(some in folders) and quick launch stuff at the bottom is any neater or better than the android equivalent?
The icons in ios7 are mostly terrible, I cant wait for the jailbreak to get those horrible things changed.
ios just copied the quick toggles(badly) they dont have an option to get into full settings and the ones allowed on the ios quick launch barely cover the basics.
Ios hasnt changed since its first release other than some new colours and a quick settings in ios7 but it get heaped with praise each time because apple claims it to have magic ponies that shoot glitter out of their poopers.
Its exactly the same with android, lots of background stuff happens on each update and it moves forward but doesnt have apple guys in polo neck shirts talking about glitter.

 

[RichardG]

Did my iPad 3 a few days ago too. Don't really see what the fuss is about.

I agree, just minor changes and keeping up-to-date with current trends.

Colour scheme, keyboard colour, signal bar, safari more responsive but the ui in the browser has changed drastically when viewing mybroadband, could be a compatibility issue

 

[Brawler]

At least IOS 7 devices are waterproof now with the update.

 

[cerebus]

I must call you out on this statement:

4.1 Introduced Google Now and "Project Butter"

Project Butter = getting rid of jank. That's engineering catchup stuff. Google Now ok fair enough is nice.

4.2 Added a new Linux kernel, Photo Sphere Panoramas and multiple user accounts (tablets)

Pretty much engineering stuff. Multiple user accounts is cool. Panoramas is heaven forbid an Apple-first item that they adapted.

4.3 Improved battery life substantially and adds OpenGL ES 3.0

Battery life is catchup stuff, OGL could have serious implications in the future so congrats for that.

Apple hasn't changed the UI since IOS 1.0 and you are complaining about Android not changing their UI in 3 minor version updates? You are being hypocritical.

All I'm really saying is that the pace of development in iOS is at least as dramatic as in Android, and there are now some serious areas where Android needs to catch up. Currently in comparison Android feels lifeless, static and plain.

Anyways, I love my android phone and I also love my iPad. I just can't help feel that Apple 'borrowed' all the new UI principles from google this time around.

Superficially sure I think so. It's sort of what all mobile UIs are tending towards - quick control, flattening, etc. The more important changes though I don't think have a good equivalent in Android: the text kit, the physics engine, the sprite kit etc. They're some very serious and forward looking UI creation tools. If you're just focusing on like..bright colours vs leather stitching it's kind of missing the bigger picture. And the level of polish for a 9 month overhaul is quite impressive.