Dissapointed with IOS 7

[[)roi(]]

I upgraded my Ipad 2 to IOS 7 yesterday without any hassle but am very disappointed with the result. The colours seem washed out and lack vibrancy and one of my apps no longer functions. it is BP-monitor which I use daily.
Can anyone advise me on how to revert to my old system?
Anyone else feel the same?

Price you pay for being on the bleeding edge.
New iOS releases are unfortunately always plagued with a few problems (speed, stability and application compatibility). This is btw nothing new for all OS releases in general (e.g. Microsoft and others).

All will be fixed in due course, both by the application vendors and Apple.

Re your BP monitor, I suggest you contact the developer of this software and push them for support of iOS7 (they have had more than enough time to make sure this works)

 

[[)roi(]]

I don't have a problem with the parallax effect at all. I like it. I just don't want my made-for-portrait-orientation pictures to be re-scaled to fit the landscape orientation as well. The parallax effect needs a little bit of extra picture.

I agree; so send Apple a feature request.

 

[[)roi(]]

I'm just guessing they rather wanted what Samsung had to offer?

I agree; a healthy market will always have both. The figures being used for comparison are skewed -- Apple is doing well enough vs comparable spec smartphones (Dolby, keep in mind that not all Android phones are comparable)

Part of the problem is that for most people it's difficult to recognise a major change and a minor one. We're just looking at things like appearance, size, icons, features and that sort of thing. But if a company makes a huge architectural transition on the SoC it gets completely missed by the people who are clamouring for something visibly new and revolutionary. S3 to S4 was a pretty big change but because they looked so similar people dismissed it as iterative. So they had to go and stuff in a bunch of featurecreep crap that nobody wanted to make it seem that they'd made a major change. That's also the thinking behind the 5c. It's basically a 5 with a new case but to the average person, looks new = is new.

I agree the biggest changes are often easily overlooked.

Here just a few of these overlooked features (all not immediately apparent):

1. Spritekit and the new physics engine. 2D and 2.5D game making just became substantially easier.
2. Game controllers. Should significantly advance gaming on the iPhone and iPad. The place to watch is what they do with Apple TV in this space.
3. Low energy bluetooth. For example: iBeacons

These few examples of course need time to blossom.

 

[Dolby]

Apple is doing well enough vs comparable spec smartphones (Dolby, keep in mind that not all Android phones are comparable)

If we take the comparable spec phones when a customer can choose one or other (ie S3 vs iPhone 5) ... the figures are quite close at less than 10 million between the two devices. Maybe they should start considering customers needs and mild customisation because at this rate, they'd have gone from #1 by a long shot in 2010 to #2 by a long shot in 2015 ...

What would the problem be with pre-defined widgets - maybe a few that Apple have OK'd ?

 

[BeVonk!]

https://discussions.apple.com/message/23021803#23021803

 

[cerebus]

I don't think this is a credible statement. Who at Apple said this?
IMO This happens to be one of the one metrics they ignore.

It was sarcasm.

If we take the comparable spec phones when a customer can choose one or other (ie S3 vs iPhone 5) ... the figures are quite close at less than 10 million between the two devices. Maybe they should start considering customers needs and mild customisation because at this rate, they'd have gone from #1 by a long shot in 2010 to #2 by a long shot in 2015 ...

What would the problem be with pre-defined widgets - maybe a few that Apple have OK'd ?

Firstly I think you'd have to demonstrate that it was the ability to add widgets that accounted for Samsung's success.
Secondly the 5c is quite a customisable phone; it just happens to be the outside of it that they prioritised rather than the homescreen. They're not the only ones doing this; the MotoX got there first by a couple of weeks or so but you can't say that one inspired the other. I think that's where they see the real value in personalisation though, and they're probably going to be right about that. Between the colours of the 5c and the cover combinations you've probably got around 50 colour schemes.

It's possible though that the 5 didn't sell through quite as well as Apple had expected. I wouldn't speculate but they took some pretty big steps with the 5c strategy so clearly they're using a marketing tactic to try and sell to a much wider base.

These few examples of course need time to blossom.

A lot of the new technology in the 5s has no current application either. It's just opening the door for developers to make new things with. The M7 chip, the 64-bit processor, the fingerprint authentication - there's a vast amount of potential there.

 

[[)roi(]]

It was sarcasm.

Lol… That's an area I fall short -- sarcasm detector unfortunately faulty

Firstly I think you'd have to demonstrate that it was the ability to add widgets that accounted for Samsung's success.

Well said…

I'd even ask Dolby to argue his point by referencing what he believes are a few of those invaluable Android widgets.

Dolby please keep in mind OS X has had a diverse widgets framework for a considerable time (so surely Apple's decision to exclude this from iOS was based on OS X). I for one never used them beyond a couple of minutes in the past few years; so how could widgets on the mobile platform be so much more valuable? :erm:

Secondly the 5c is quite a customisable phone; it just happens to be the outside of it that they prioritised rather than the homescreen. They're not the only ones doing this; the MotoX got there first by a couple of weeks or so but you can't say that one inspired the other. I think that's where they see the real value in personalisation though, and they're probably going to be right about that. Between the colours of the 5c and the cover combinations you've probably got around 50 colour schemes.

It's possible though that the 5 didn't sell through quite as well as Apple had expected. I wouldn't speculate but they took some pretty big steps with the 5c strategy so clearly they're using a marketing tactic to try and sell to a much wider base.

Interesting take on this.

A lot of the new technology in the 5s has no current application either. It's just opening the door for developers to make new things with. The M7 chip, the 64-bit processor, the fingerprint authentication - there's a vast amount of potential there.

Well said… iOS7 + 5S reveal much about the Apple road ahead.

 

[[)roi(]]

https://discussions.apple.com/message/23021803#23021803

Keep in mind that Apple never monitors the public forums (only the developer ones). In either case the way to get their attention is to either:

• (As a developer) Submit a bug / feature request on http://bugreporter.apple.com
• (As a consumer) Submit your feedback via http://www.apple.com/feedback/

 

[Beri]

strange how the apple haters comes to the thread and trash the product!!!

 

[sand_man]

strange how the apple haters comes to the thread and trash the product!!!

Not strange at all. Par for the course.

I think what Apple have managed to do very well with iOS 7 is make a big enough change while retaining the familiarity of the OS 7 replaces and if you think that's easy consider how many users Microsoft alienated with Windows 8 by simply instituting the Metro screen. It's a fine line....

 

[AfricanTech]

Interesting the whole Samsung vs apple competition.

Personally I had an S3 that I was quite happy to exchange for an Xperia T. I didn't like what Samsung did with the UI and replaced it with a 3rd party UI within two weeks (I tried, if really tried).

All the innovations samsung touted (air control, eye track, etc) have turned out to be gimmicks (well, for the peoplei know who have these phones anyway) but the one edge they do have is larger screen size offering.

Mates of mine are also complaining about reliability issues (phone lock ups etc) and are starting to move into the " I like android but not samsung" space.

As for the iPhone, you'll have to pry it from my wife and daughters cold, dead hands before they'll give theirs up.

 

[Dolby]

We'll I can't prove beyond reasonable doubt that the reason people are swapping is because of customization and widgets - for me that is a large part though. If I look where Apple were in 2009, 2011 and now the picture is changing rapidly with regards to sales.

As I said earlier, perhaps if they simply listen to customers wants and needs they would be rapidly falling in market share. I understand they may not care, but then then there shouldn't be a big issue when in a year or two, they fall to 2nd spot behind Samsung.

 

[Crowley]

strange how the apple haters comes to the thread and trash the product!!!

Despite what a lot of forum users think I don't hate Apple. I hate the way they feel the need to control everything you do and how you do it on your phone. They make a very nice phone (even if the screen is so small). What I don't get is why when Apple does something it is considered to be OMG AWESOMESAUCE!!!

- Control center.
- App auto update
- Multitasking
- Camera filters
- Airdrop (S beam, although it is a Samsung thing so it was only a gimmick until Apple did it)
- Safari (Buttons and bars — like the unified smart search field — stay hidden until you scroll to reveal them. - Just like Chrome)
- Night mode for maps
- Time stamps for your messages
- Block calls and messages

Some of these are things that Android users have been taking for granted for years now.

 

[Beri]

Despite what a lot of forum users think I don't hate Apple. I hate the way they feel the need to control everything you do and how you do it on your phone. They make a very nice phone (even if the screen is so small). What I don't get is why when Apple does something it is considered to be OMG AWESOMESAUCE!!!

- Control center.
- App auto update
- Multitasking
- Camera filters
- Airdrop (S beam, although it is a Samsung thing so it was only a gimmick until Apple did it)
- Safari (Buttons and bars — like the unified smart search field — stay hidden until you scroll to reveal them. - Just like Chrome)
- Night mode for maps
- Time stamps for your messages
- Block calls and messages

Some of these are things that Android users have been taking for granted for years now.

i have the ipad and some android devices. but do not feel the need to go and crap on BB or android or WM. we all like different things.

 

[Crowley]

i have the ipad and some android devices. but do not feel the need to go and crap on BB or android or WM. we all like different things.

I guess message boards would be very boring if everybody liked the same things and we couldn't discuss our differences now wouldn't it?

 

[[)roi(]]

We'll I can't prove beyond reasonable doubt that the reason people are swapping is because of customization and widgets - for me that is a large part though. If I look where Apple were in 2009, 2011 and now the picture is changing rapidly with regards to sales.

As I said earlier, perhaps if they simply listen to customers wants and needs they would be rapidly falling in market share. I understand they may not care, but then then there shouldn't be a big issue when in a year or two, they fall to 2nd spot behind Samsung.

No worries Dolby -- as I said it's healthy to have both Android and iOS (pity there's no viable 3rd).

IMO Those that love Android will tend to stay with Android; adding widgets to iOS and more customization to iOS won't make them shift -- and that's a good thing, it's never going to be healthy to have only 1 major player.

Btw if you look at Apple's sales (volume & profits), they are certainly not feeling a pinch, an anyway whose to say some of this is not related to a normal ebb and flow.

 

[[)roi(]]

Despite what a lot of forum users think I don't hate Apple. I hate the way they feel the need to control everything you do and how you do it on your phone.

What you call control I call a well thought out system that tries it's best to balance the needs of the developers with that of the consumer.

For example;
1. What was the price of apps prior to Apple?
2. What was the quality like for mobile apps prior to Apple?
3. How was the OS security prior to Apple (anti virus, ...)?

The point is that it's not all bad, and most consumers (at least the Apple ones) are happy with the simplicity it provides.

They make a very nice phone (even if the screen is so small). What I don't get is why when Apple does something it is considered to be OMG AWESOMESAUCE!!!

- Control center.
- App auto update
- Multitasking
- Camera filters
- Airdrop (S beam, although it is a Samsung thing so it was only a gimmick until Apple did it)
- Safari (Buttons and bars — like the unified smart search field — stay hidden until you scroll to reveal them. - Just like Chrome)
- Night mode for maps
- Time stamps for your messages
- Block calls and messages

Some of these are things that Android users have been taking for granted for years now.

That's just being petty.

As I've said before those that think iOS7 or the 5S are only "poor" copies, have not explored any further than the veneer. There's a treasure trove of inventions lurking beneath; most of which need time for their impact to be realized.

 

[cerebus]

Despite what a lot of forum users think I don't hate Apple. I hate the way they feel the need to control everything you do and how you do it on your phone. They make a very nice phone (even if the screen is so small).

Apple's control of the phone has positives and negatives. There are tradeoffs either way. At least when they do get around to offering something, they do it in a way that shows they've thought deeply about the right way to do it, rather than just slapping it in because it's a feature. We had this conversation about NFC recently. You thought they were just being dictatorial by not including it. But then they introduced the fingerprint sensor, which is clearly their way of approaching the problem of phone-based purchasing, and you thought it was a gimmick.

What I don't get is why when Apple does something it is considered to be OMG AWESOMESAUCE!!!

- Control center.
- App auto update
- Multitasking
- Camera filters
- Airdrop (S beam, although it is a Samsung thing so it was only a gimmick until Apple did it)
- Safari (Buttons and bars — like the unified smart search field — stay hidden until you scroll to reveal them. - Just like Chrome)
- Night mode for maps
- Time stamps for your messages
- Block calls and messages

I think you'll be hard pressed to see anybody so deluded as to think that Apple's introduction of a control centre (and all that other stuff) is innovative. It's somewhat new that they broke control and notifications into two regions, but basically they're making their own version of what has been around for a long time on Android.

What I don't get though, is how every time Apple does present something really new and groundbreaking it gets dismissed as soon as it's shown off. The reality is that whenever they've unveiled a new product, that's turned out to completely disrupt the industry they're playing in, it's never recognised as a revolution. Perhaps because they don't package it as something overtly revolutionary

 

[[)roi(]]

...The reality is that whenever they've unveiled a new product, that's turned out to completely disrupt the industry they're playing in, it's never recognised as a revolution. Perhaps because they don't package it as something overtly revolutionary

It could also be a deliberate tactic i.e. keep the limelight off the real attack front.

 

[cerebus]

It could also be a deliberate tactic i.e. keep the limelight off the real attack front.

There was an interview with Ive and Federighi where Ive said that with something like the fingerprint sensor, it's the kind of thing where an engineer would have wanted to make a huge spectacle of it. They would have added in flashing buttons and big SUCCESS indicators and make a big swirly animation or something; and stripping that stuff out while the core engineering work was still so extraordinarily powerful, makes for a better user experience. I think that's part of why nobody recognizes revolution when they see it happening in an Apple product; it's concealed in a package that looks like something ordinary and inevitable. iPad = big iPod Touch. Like...what's the big deal? Until the world's PC manufacturers wake up and see their bottom lines being slashed because everyone's opting for tablets.