Dissapointed with IOS 7

[Awesum]

I just now discovered that Apple "broke" the wallpaper function in iOS 7 for my iPad Mini. In the past I could take a snapshot of a nice picture that fills the iPad screen in portrait orientation (I only use landscape when I watch videos so I don't care what the wallpaper looks like in landscape) and use that exactly as taken as a wallpaper. Today when I tried to do what I've always done iOS 7 did what Android tablets do (that drives me insane) ... it forces the picture to work for both orientations so in portrait you get this close-up version. Hell no! i do not want Apple to force this upon me. In Android I can get apps to fix this but we know in iOS this cannot happen.

You can turn it off.
Settings, general, accessibility, reduce motion.
This turns off the parallax effect.

 

[Necuno]

/drama

 

[cerebus]

The way their market shares are declining I would have to say yes.

Well one thing Apple have said repeatedly is that marketshare is the single most important metric by which they judge their success.

But here's the thing that gets me. Android hasn't added anything significantly new since 2011 with ICS. 4.1 was about getting rid of the jank (innovation!), 4.2 and 4.3 were pretty negligible. Some notifications tweaks, a lot of backend stuff, but the core OS didn't change at all. And the basic Android UI is bare and boring and ugly. Even with customisations, all you're doing is creating a nice, static homescreen. There's no physics engine, no gaussian blurs or overarching theme, no delightful small touches, just barebones icons and swipes. So where's all this heady innovation that Apple needs to catch up with? They'll never add widgets or custom theming. They make enough of an effort to make the core experience excellent that it's not something they would consider doing; philosophically it's completely against their principles.

 

[Dolby]

So where's all this heady innovation that Apple needs to catch up with? They'll never add widgets or custom theming

Do you think this is why they're bleeding market share the competition is simply exploding around them?

 

[cerebus]

Do you think this is why they're bleeding market share the competition is simply exploding around them?

You think widgets and custom theming are why Android's gaining marketshare? You're out of your rocker. It's because the entire third world - the remaining 4billion or so people on earth - are able to afford Android phones and not really so much able to afford iPhones. You can get a $300 Android Chinese phone now with a fhd ips screen and quad core processor. It's insane.

 

[Dolby]

You reckon Apple isn't losing then - Android is gaining faster, skewing the figures?
You do know the 70 million+ people that bought S3/S4 could probably get iPhones though?

 

[cerebus]

You reckon Apple isn't losing then - Android is gaining faster, skewing the figures?

I'm not really talking about winning or losing between ecosystems. Between Samsung and Apple sure you can talk but Android and Apple? I've never really thought you could. Android is an odd thing to quantify. Right now it's on well over 1000 unique pieces of hardware in every possible configuration. And it's responsible for the less developed world being able to adopt smartphones en masse, which is a great great thing.

You do know the 70 million+ people that bought S3/S4 could probably get iPhones though?

You want to compare S3/S4 sales against 4S/5 sales?

 

[undesign]

Title is disappointing...

I've upgraded an iPad 3, iPad Mini, iPhone 5 and iPhone 4S. No issues, some changes take a little getting used to, but overall I rate this as a very refreshing update and overhaul. Some awesome functionality added, OS feels very fresh and modern.

Little niggles aside (I hate the springboard effect...) I'm extremely happy with the update across all devices.

 

[DJ...]

You think widgets and custom theming are why Android's gaining marketshare? You're out of your rocker. It's because the entire third world - the remaining 4billion or so people on earth - are able to afford Android phones and not really so much able to afford iPhones. You can get a $300 Android Chinese phone now with a fhd ips screen and quad core processor. It's insane.

Or you can pay double the price for similar specs and a physics engine that gives you vertigo while looking at your homescreen...

 

[Dolby]

You want to compare S3/S4 sales against 4S/5 sales?

Yes please?

I'm with the gazillion iPhones a mere 70 million means nothing to them ...

EDIT : Oh right - not quite a gazillion and the number is getting fairly close every generation- too close for comfort. That combined with the millions of JB downloaded on release surely says something? Right?

 

[undesign]

Yes please?

I'm with the gazillion iPhones a mere 70 million means nothing to them ...

Still can't resist the Apple threads hey? Show some self control man.

 

[cerebus]

Or you can pay double the price for similar specs and a physics engine that gives you vertigo while looking at your homescreen...

Top Samsung/HTC/LG phone and top iPhone cost the same. The ones with that kind of spec are no-name Chinese models like this one. But yea look...it's pretty tempting hey. I've often been quite tempted to try one of these out.

 

[Dolby]

I have an Apple - I'm allowed

Plus I took have iOS 7 and gave my 2c. In other threads you'll see that I like iPhone 5S compared to most other iPhones - and iOS 7 looks pretty decent as well.

 

[Dolby]

Top Samsung/HTC/LG phone and top iPhone cost the same.

In your opinion - why would those 70 million have not chosen an iPhone, considering they can afford it?

 

[DJ...]

Top Samsung/HTC/LG phone and top iPhone cost the same. The ones with that kind of spec are no-name Chinese models like this one. But yea look...it's pretty tempting hey. I've often been quite tempted to try one of these out.

I'm not a fanboi either way in these debates. I have been disappointed with the latest Android releases and I watched the features video for iOS and was equally disappointed. They are all holding off on major overhauls while the market is ripe for the picking. They're securing their future market share...

 

[cerebus]

I'm not a fanboi either way in these debates. I have been disappointed with the latest Android releases and I watched the features video for iOS and was equally disappointed. They are all holding off on major overhauls while the market is ripe for the picking. They're securing their future market share...

With iOS what happened was that they had Scott Forstall in charge for a long time, and I guess he was pretty intransigent towards changing it in a significant way. In all honesty it had fallen behind in features and appearance. So last December they displaced him and made Jony Ive head of design on the hardware and software sides. So they've been spending the last 9-10 months to make iOS7. This is what they've managed to do in that space of time. That should give a bit of context into how aggressively they've been working to overhaul it.

And also to be fair... the last few iterations of Android were 'tocks'. They put in quite a lot of useful architectural work that isn't so visible but it was needed; like TRIM support. The big features are single numbers, so KitKat should be a pretty big change.

In your opinion - why would those 70 million have not chosen an iPhone, considering they can afford it?

I'm just guessing they rather wanted what Samsung had to offer?


Part of the problem is that for most people it's difficult to recognise a major change and a minor one. We're just looking at things like appearance, size, icons, features and that sort of thing. But if a company makes a huge architectural transition on the SoC it gets completely missed by the people who are clamouring for something visibly new and revolutionary. S3 to S4 was a pretty big change but because they looked so similar people dismissed it as iterative. So they had to go and stuff in a bunch of featurecreep crap that nobody wanted to make it seem that they'd made a major change. That's also the thinking behind the 5c. It's basically a 5 with a new case but to the average person, looks new = is new.

 

[Dolby]

I'm just guessing they rather wanted what Samsung had to offer?

Ok.

Btw - if this site is correct, Apple sold 60 million iPhone 5 ... and the S3 was 50 million. Going back to what you said earlier - that does mean their market share is shrinking and it's not quite the 3rd world that's the only reason Android is on the way. I also suspect the locked down plays a part ...

 

[[)roi(]]

Well one thing Apple have said repeatedly is that marketshare is the single most important metric by which they judge their success.

I don't think this is a credible statement. Who at Apple said this?
IMO This happens to be one of the one metrics they ignore.

But here's the thing that gets me. Android hasn't added anything significantly new since 2011 with ICS. 4.1 was about getting rid of the jank (innovation!), 4.2 and 4.3 were pretty negligible. Some notifications tweaks, a lot of backend stuff, but the core OS didn't change at all. And the basic Android UI is bare and boring and ugly. Even with customisations, all you're doing is creating a nice, static homescreen. There's no physics engine, no gaussian blurs or overarching theme, no delightful small touches, just barebones icons and swipes. So where's all this heady innovation that Apple needs to catch up with? They'll never add widgets or custom theming. They make enough of an effort to make the core experience excellent that it's not something they would consider doing; philosophically it's completely against their principles.

I agree.

Do you think this is why they're bleeding market share the competition is simply exploding around them?

"Bleeding market share…" :erm: I don't this is as important to Apple as you think it is.

Apple has never been one to chase market share for the sake of market share. Consider that they too could litter the market with low(er) cost devices to win market share. So unless you believe they are incapable of doing this, you should agree there must be more to this.

 

[BeVonk!]

You can turn it off.
Settings, general, accessibility, reduce motion.
This turns off the parallax effect.

I don't have a problem with the parallax effect at all. I like it. I just don't want my made-for-portrait-orientation pictures to be re-scaled to fit the landscape orientation as well. The parallax effect needs a little bit of extra picture.

 

[Ricard]

Top Samsung/HTC/LG phone and top iPhone cost the same. The ones with that kind of spec are no-name Chinese models like this one. But yea look...it's pretty tempting hey. I've often been quite tempted to try one of these out.

The nexus4 is £159 on the play store