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DK spec's & other
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Pitbull
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Dk are number 1 tanks look at amount of caster mobs in dungeons and they got everything from aoe tanking to anti caster stuff.Then you didn't have the correct DPS. I have pulled aggro off DicK's with my Rogue and my Shaman with easeI can however not do it so easly with a Pala. Pala is by far the best AoE tank in game hands down. They are Prob arguably the Best tanks in game with Warriors second and Druids 3rd.
Being 4th rated at a set function is setting you up for disaster
Pulling agro off is easy dont know why you guys think its a achievement?
But your tanking order is out.
Ill say best tanks atm will be DKs then Wariors then Palas ferals not even tanks anymore and getting nerfed even further.
Just give the dks time to gear up in rigth hands they are the best tanks just too many ex-rogues and hunter that wants to lol dps with them around.
Pitbull
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If you honestly belive this, then my friend there is no hope for the DicK class what so ever going forward. Either that or you have not seen a Pala or a Warrior tank..... Ever !
Warior tanks most of these guys that tank atm is because of skill thats why they are this good not because they play THE OP class.And Pala was always the noob tank class you spam AOE and get all the agro how hard can that be REALLY?
Remember these guys have raided before EVERYthing got nerfed to hell.
They got skill>OP class give that same guy a DK then youll see what hell do solo instances with himself and 1 healer.
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Meh, im a masochist
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=jfMMZGMxtIxdRhoVosx
I'm currently frost dps
I just love the monster crits as i aoe down 4 mobs with an 2x 8k Howling Blast critsSorry, watching a warrior thats 20k higher in threat say WTF when i pulled the mob off him is just too priceless
Pitbull
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Again Petruz, you fail to think about anyone but yourself. I'm talking about the Benefit to the group. I honestly don't know or care how hard it is for the Pala/Warrior to tank be it easy or not. I know for a Warrior it's not, have no idea what the Pala tanking is about.
You judge the greatness of a Tank by how they are played
Pala's/Warriors are the superior tanks by far, maybe not according to you but they are and that is a fact
As a DPS class I prefer to have a tank be it easy or not for the player tanking to do so. I have been through to many wipes because of DicK's and yes some of them are experienced players IN MY GUILD.
But the hard fact will still sink in to everyone thinking "DicK's are the best class ever because they are a "Heroe" class. They where so IMBA in DoTA"
DicK's are just another class in WoW, nothing more nothing less
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Erm, isnt that the tanks job? To hold aggro? Don't get upset when the new kids on the block start tanking as effectively as the 'orginal' tanks
haha mate, me upset? noooo
Just said that any class (with taunts) can grab agrro when using a taunt regardless of the amount of threat the tank already has.
DicK's are just another class in WoW, nothing more nothing less
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-Blood Dks bring party/raid wide stacking +2% damage dealt that heals them
-Frost Dks bring +72 all resistance aura (does it increase per level - i'm 72 at the moment)... Since Blizzard changed how spells are used (instead of just Arcane, it was changed to Arcane + Nature in SWP afaik)
-Unholy Dks provide Attack Speed and Movement speed i think (?) I'm open to correction
Not too mention they can tank and melee dps and sustain themselves with selfhealing
Compared to a druid, their very similar. They are just another class in WoW. yes they seem OP in Outland... they were never designed for it. Wait till you get to Northrend, you'll be just as strong as the retridin over there
True, its just everyone has pre-conceived ideas that Dks are the new huntards,
and that they'd rather have a familiar class doing the tanking than a real man*
*real men tank with [-]zerker stance and[/-] a 2h
The only tanking that matters, really, is boss tanking. That's where the real epeen is. That's where the true glory lies. I don't really care that much about aoe tanking ability. Effective cc can compensate. But nothing can compensate for the ability of a tank to soak a series of blows that would reduce a lesser mortal to a messy smear.
Warrior and druid tanks aren't going anywhere.
Warrior and druid tanks aren't going anywhere.
Pitbull
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Pitbull
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True, its just everyone has pre-conceived ideas that Dks are the new huntards,
and that they'd rather have a familiar class doing the tanking than a real man*
*real men tank with [-]zerker stance and[/-] a 2h
lol,
Ok let me ask you this. You where level 30 odd, waiting for a tank to go one of the Sm dungeons. You have a Hunter in your group. Does he or does he not mention "My Pet can tank np" just get another DPS ?
This is exactly what the DicK's are doing
"I'll tank" It goes fine in Outlands.
"I'll tank" in Northrend = EPIC FAIL!
I know I have seen it. 4 DicK's and a Lock solo's SP no problem.
3 DicK's, a Lock and a Priest can't even kill the first boss in UK
Each DicK thinks he can tank, everyone on a different mob and all jusy goes south from there. Even the MT (DicK) could not keep Aggro of my Lock
Yipee to the new Huntard class
Pretty much what I suspect as well. Right now DK's may seem like effective tanks because mitigation isn't really that high on the list with everyone running vanilla instances. Once the heroics and diffucult raids start gathering momentum though?
I suspect DK's will be relegated to offtanks and buff/utility/side-dps, and that's probably going to result in a fair number of ruffled DK feathers, of people who rolled the class expecting to upset the status quo and boot the existing tanks from their established roles. Perhaps once the gear lead irons out and Blizzard have had more time to massage the class, they'll be MT worthy. But fact remains being an effective endgame tank is about gearing and speccing properly for it, and most people who rolled DK's probably thought they could pack on their 2H'er and dps gear and still tank just fine. They inevitably fail and start making the class look bad at the role and soon no-one trusts a Death Knight to tank anything at all.
So, most people will stick to what they know works when it comes to general boss tanking, ie ye good olde Sword and Board or Furwall, baby.
I suspect DK's will be relegated to offtanks and buff/utility/side-dps, and that's probably going to result in a fair number of ruffled DK feathers, of people who rolled the class expecting to upset the status quo and boot the existing tanks from their established roles. Perhaps once the gear lead irons out and Blizzard have had more time to massage the class, they'll be MT worthy. But fact remains being an effective endgame tank is about gearing and speccing properly for it, and most people who rolled DK's probably thought they could pack on their 2H'er and dps gear and still tank just fine. They inevitably fail and start making the class look bad at the role and soon no-one trusts a Death Knight to tank anything at all.
So, most people will stick to what they know works when it comes to general boss tanking, ie ye good olde Sword and Board or Furwall, baby.
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DicK's are just another class in WoW, nothing more nothing less
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The sooner this sinks in the better for us all. DK are nr.1 tanks...
Whaaaaa?
@Petrus - have you ever tanked as a paladin? ever? you are very quick with your bashing of other classes, so just wondering
Pitbull
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Skurm ?
Is there any nice DicK discussions on Prophecy ?
Is there any nice DicK discussions on Prophecy ?
True, its just everyone has pre-conceived ideas that Dks are the new huntards,
and that they'd rather have a familiar class doing the tanking than a real man*
*real men tank with [-]zerker stance and[/-] a 2h
Regrettably they are
Every little snot nose kiddie is playing one right now. This does not infer that all DK's are nubies, but you gonna have to live with the fact that you are covered by a shared blanket
Good hunters always had to live with the same stigma issues - get over it
and double lol tanking with a 2h
that is so lameAgain, my opinion playing a DK was anything but 'this is so op lolol'. Maybe it depends what class you were playing before, I dunno. When i windfury down a mob in under a 2 seconds as opposed to going through the dot dot dot nuke dot nuke self heal rigamarole the last thing i feel is that the class is op.
If anything it's the 3 true hybrids that are the hero classes now. Feral druids are insane and just about the most adaptable, versatile thing you have ever seen, switching between offtanking/maintanking and dps and topping off heals right in the middle of combat... pallies can dps like bloody mages and warlocks now and still be some of the best tanks and healers, enhancement shamans can throw out instant freakin chainheals right in the middle of dps'ing to help keep the melee pack up or aoe with the best of them thanks to maelstrommed chain lightnings while still offering the best buffs and cleansing and interrupting and popping up resist totems or eating killer spells or hell even kiting if need be and even cc'ing etc etc, all without a stance or gear or presence or whatever swop. It's a good time to be a shammy now that the class is so underrepresented and yet buffed to heck.
What can DK's do? Tank casters or do some dps and buffs. Can't heal. Can't cleanse. Can't cc. Hahaha. Heroic. Yeah, right. They're just another shleb class in reality. The real magic, the true epicness remains with the hybrids.
Maybe it's gear though. Stepping into Northrend in tier5/tier6 as opposed to Outland greens probably makes all the difference. So I'll keep something of an open mind for now.
If anything it's the 3 true hybrids that are the hero classes now. Feral druids are insane and just about the most adaptable, versatile thing you have ever seen, switching between offtanking/maintanking and dps and topping off heals right in the middle of combat... pallies can dps like bloody mages and warlocks now and still be some of the best tanks and healers, enhancement shamans can throw out instant freakin chainheals right in the middle of dps'ing to help keep the melee pack up or aoe with the best of them thanks to maelstrommed chain lightnings while still offering the best buffs and cleansing and interrupting and popping up resist totems or eating killer spells or hell even kiting if need be and even cc'ing etc etc, all without a stance or gear or presence or whatever swop. It's a good time to be a shammy now that the class is so underrepresented and yet buffed to heck.
What can DK's do? Tank casters or do some dps and buffs. Can't heal. Can't cleanse. Can't cc. Hahaha. Heroic. Yeah, right. They're just another shleb class in reality. The real magic, the true epicness remains with the hybrids.
Maybe it's gear though. Stepping into Northrend in tier5/tier6 as opposed to Outland greens probably makes all the difference. So I'll keep something of an open mind for now.
Yeah, you could have a look at http://forums.prophecy.co.za/f23/dk-56932/
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Of particular interest is the poll attached to the thread linked above. I quote:
What will you use your DK for ?
Tanking 14 43.75%
Dps 18 56.25%
Hahaha. DPS DK's have their work cut out for them in a world where everyone can dps, and even tanking ones face an uphill struggle.
What will you use your DK for ?
Tanking 14 43.75%
Dps 18 56.25%
Hahaha. DPS DK's have their work cut out for them in a world where everyone can dps, and even tanking ones face an uphill struggle.