do broadband without flash

[BigAl-sa]

I'm really getting really tired of iburst's throughput of late (especially afternoon and evenings), so am looking at adsl. However, telkom's do broadband site is restricted to flash. Anyone know how to get the info without installing flash (I hate flash with a passion)?

Or maybe even point me at an ISP that can do the deed.

 

[Syndyre]

Try www.webafrica.co.za

 

[BigAl-sa]

Try www.webafrica.co.za

Thanks, will do. Just taking an age to get anything downloaded

 

[BigAl-sa]

Just a quick response - I'm very impressed with the speed at which webafrica responds to queries.

What's also quite interesting is that since I mentioned slow speeds on iburst (and I'm thinking of changing), I'm just about back to the speed I'm used to...

 

[HellTel]

I'm really getting really tired of iburst's throughput of late (especially afternoon and evenings), so am looking at adsl. However, telkom's do broadband site is restricted to flash. Anyone know how to get the info without installing flash (I hate flash with a passion)?

Or maybe even point me at an ISP that can do the deed.

Just a quick question, - why do you hate flash so much?

 

[BigAl-sa]

Just a quick question, - why do you hate flash so much?

Comes from dial-up days, waiting for stuff to download.

And I really can't see why developers have to use flash navigation. Does it impress the customer??

 

[ColinR]

Comes from dial-up days, waiting for stuff to download.

And I really can't see why developers have to use flash navigation. Does it impress the customer??

I'm afraid we're not in dial-up days, and flash (or similar techonolgies) are here to stay.

 

[BigAl-sa]

I'm afraid we're not in dial-up days, and flash (or similar techonolgies) are here to stay.

If you design a site with flash navigation, you've lost me as a potential visitor to that site (as telkom has lost me as a potential customer, per the title of this thread).

 

[ColinR]

Its all cool. Just going to be about 5 sites that you'll be able to visit soon then. One of which will probably be Telkom

 

[bwana]

If you design a site with flash navigation, you've lost me as a potential visitor to that site (as telkom has lost me as a potential customer, per the title of this thread).

Pity - telkom probably would have worked out cheaper for you.

 

[BigAl-sa]

Its all cool. Just going to be about 5 sites that you'll be able to visit soon then. One of which will probably be Telkom

I somehow doubt it, at R10k for the flash dev package, the only people who will want to use it is those that have to justify the costs (unless of course, like all good SA developers, you have a pirate copy ). BTW, telkom's pages are already full of flash, so like their do broadband it will probably disappear into the flash too.

@bwana, I agree with you, just webafrica, as suggested by Syndyre, has been on the ball with responding to queries. It's just unfortunate their hands are also tied by telkom for the line. Telkom don't even bother to send a canned message to acknowledge receipt of any email, let alone a response from a real person

 

[Sackboy]

I'm afraid we're not in dial-up days, and flash (or similar techonolgies) are here to stay.

Well if flash gives us problems on Telkom's own ADSL internet offering, then they shouldn't use it or should offer an alternative. I'm sure there are many old systems throughout the world that grind to a halt with most Adobe products.
{btw Flash are trying to do updgrades today}

 

[HellTel]

Comes from dial-up days, waiting for stuff to download.

And I really can't see why developers have to use flash navigation. Does it impress the customer??

But of course it impresses the client, movement is far better then still pages.

If you are serious about Internet business you are on some sort of broadband package and that makes flash a breeze, if you are not serious about Internet business then losing you as a potential client would not be much of a loss would it?

Flash is here to stay, like it or not, dial up days are gone.

 

[BigAl-sa]

I'm afraid we're not in dial-up days, and flash (or similar techonolgies) are here to stay.

But of course it impresses the client, movement is far better then still pages.

If you are serious about Internet business you are on some sort of broadband package and that makes flash a breeze, if you are not serious about Internet business then losing you as a potential client would not be much of a loss would it?

Flash is here to stay, like it or not, dial up days are gone.

Looks like the flash fanboy motto

I'll also add my query as to how you can justify using flash...

I somehow doubt it, at R10k for the flash dev package, the only people who will want to use it is those that have to justify the costs (unless of course, like all good SA developers, you have a pirate copy ).

Did you pay for *your* copy of flash?