Do people hack DSTV decoders?

HavocXphere said:
I'm fairly sure that there is info going upstream. A mate of mine tried to guess the parental guidance password a few years back. After a bunch of tries, DSTV called.

The marriage thing also requires upstream AFAIK. I'm guessing they also use it to monitor the number of viewers per channel.

I would stay far away from an DSTV hacks.

btw the "correct" way to hack satellite TV is with a computer & satellite card not with a decoder.
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Guys, there is NO WAY your decoder transmits or upstreams anything, nothing, nada,none!

For starters, LNB's only receive, they are designed to receive, BUC's or transceivers transmit, or uplink.

There isn't a "hidden" transmitter in the DSTV decoder - however it just goes to show that a little bullsh!t scares people and keeps them away from the illegalities.

And as far as irdeto access goes, its very hackable - not as simple after the marriage because they know how many people or rather how many cards one decoder is shared with when you send them an SMS for a new marriage.

The easiest hack: Mod's snip here if its not correct to say this in this forum, is to clone the card. You can buy the cards either from multichoice themselves or buy them bulk in Asia!
 
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thedoc! said:
Guys, there is NO WAY your decoder transmits or upstreams anything, nothing, nada,none!
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I stand corrected:o. Maybe my friend was pulling my leg - I'll ask him next time.
 
LOL at all the heresay and speculation in this thread. WAAAY to many "I know a guy" and "a friend told me" and "I heard that.." etc.

Like thedoc! posted, the simplest way is to clone a valid smartcard. Since the V2.3 smartcards it has been excruciatingly difficult to manage. The whole "smartcard marriage" thing is just another way to combat smartcard cloning. Multichoice will also not "marry" a smartcard to more than 2 unique decoders.
 
lcbxx said:
LOL at all the heresay and speculation in this thread. WAAAY to many "I know a guy" and "a friend told me" and "I heard that.." etc.

Like thedoc! posted, the simplest way is to clone a valid smartcard. Since the V2.3 smartcards it has been excruciatingly difficult to manage. The whole "smartcard marriage" thing is just another way to combat smartcard cloning. Multichoice will also not "marry" a smartcard to more than 2 unique decoders.
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NoChoice cannot marry a card to a after-market decoder either... they only have total control on the UEC ones.
 
lcbxx said:
LOL at all the heresay and speculation in this thread. WAAAY to many "I know a guy" and "a friend told me" and "I heard that.." etc.

Like thedoc! posted, the simplest way is to clone a valid smartcard. Since the V2.3 smartcards it has been excruciatingly difficult to manage. The whole "smartcard marriage" thing is just another way to combat smartcard cloning. Multichoice will also not "marry" a smartcard to more than 2 unique decoders.
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I couldn't have said it better myself! you're 100% there..
 
mercurial said:
i know of people who got caught with the fake mnet chips a long time ago, so if that's possible, who's to say DSTV can't track them down either?
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The Mnet pirates were caught because all the people in a small geographic area suddenly stopped subscribing. It was then a simple matter of making enquiries.
rvanwyk said:
IRDETO, base in the netherlands is owned by naspers. :)
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Is that right? Source please ...
HavocXphere said:
I'm fairly sure that there is info going upstream. A mate of mine tried to guess the parental guidance password a few years back. After a bunch of tries, DSTV called.

The marriage thing also requires upstream AFAIK. I'm guessing they also use it to monitor the number of viewers per channel.
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Coincidence.

The marriage process is a simple matter of a request via SMS. DSTV then sends a signal containing your specific account number and whatever DSTV decoder your card is in gets 'married'. I haven't heard of any limits to the number of marriages. Why would it make any difference anyway?

The viewers per channel stats are gathered using a sample of subscribers with special decoder equipment set up in their homes and connected to the phone line. Every time they change channels, this is stored and sent to Multichoice during the early hours of the morning.
 
Syndyre said:
Lol that's just stupid.



See here.
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Irdeto is a wholly-owned subsidiary of successful, multinational media group Naspers (JSE: NPN). The Naspers family (FY2005-06 revenue approximately US$2.5B) includes a profitable group of pay TV sister companies in Africa, Europe and Asia. As a primary supplier to these companies since the beginnings of digital TV more than a decade ago, Irdeto has always played a vital role within the group. Nevertheless, more than 75% of Irdeto's revenue comes from companies outside the group following Irdeto's successful transition to a global, market-driven company in the 1990's. In recent years, Naspers has made a significant additional investment in Irdeto in order to enable the expansion of the company into the IPTV and mobile markets, showing the shareholder's long-term commitment to the company.
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Thanks. That's news to me.
 
Skeptik said:
The Mnet pirates were caught because all the people in a small geographic area suddenly stopped subscribing. It was then a simple matter of making enquiries.
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lol that is rather silly. that's not the reason. at the risk of sounding like something that one of the other posters said, i know another guy at my work lol, he told me he was using specific software to get mnet for free on his pc tv card. he then giggled and told me the police arrived at his house and searched thru the place. he didn't want to say anything more after revealing this. over the years i've also heard of some people getting caught using programmed mnet chips. one of the guys who made these chips stopped making them for fear of getting caught.
 
On the original DSTV decoders the cards could be cloned by building a PIC based card which connected to your PC. The PC would do the number crunching and whenever the algorithm changed it worked out the new key and send it to the card.

This was based on the original irdeto which has cracked a good few years ago. The new decoders use irdeto2 which hasn't been cracked yet (there's rumours the underground guys have cracked it but its not publically available)

The only way to get 'free' dstv is to use a cloned card but as someone previously said this doesn't work for long as they continiously changed the algorithm.

DSTV is a one way system - they don't poll your system, they can't send data to it - the decoder pulls the signal so there's no way for them to track/trace illegal decoders. Its like a radio receiver - you can't way how many radios are tuned into a station. Any thing else you read to hype used to scare people.
 
This reminds me of the campaign the SABC had a few years ago where they drove around in a van detecting the TV sets that received their signal without a license :rolleyes: Maybe Multichoice has the same tech.
 
gregmcc said:
More like they drove around looking for TV aerials :)
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They may have actually been looking for signal a tv generates to receive the signal. "All" receivers must generate a small signal, called a local oscillator signal, to be able to receive a signal. The SABC may have been driving around to detect that. But I also heard a rumor they were "listening" for frame synchronisation signals on old analog tv's. Dunno if the LCD's/plasma's do the same.

But yes, you can catch a lot of people in remote areas who can't receive tv without erecting antennas on their roofs.
 
HavocXphere said:
I'm fairly sure that there is info going upstream. A mate of mine tried to guess the parental guidance password a few years back. After a bunch of tries, DSTV called.

The marriage thing also requires upstream AFAIK. I'm guessing they also use it to monitor the number of viewers per channel.

I would stay far away from an DSTV hacks.

btw the "correct" way to hack satellite TV is with a computer & satellite card not with a decoder.
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About 5 years ago when my brother and i still lived with our folks - him and me tried to guess the Parental control password. We did 100 each night for 10 nights in a row (stupid code was 9635)

Needless to say - nobody called
 
Even if the decoder had transmission equipment, it has no antenna and the decoder is encased in metal acting as a crude Faraday cage, they'd also need base stations all over the place (like a cell phone), else the decoder would have needed a powerful transmitter.

LNB's can't transmit as has been mentioned, the dish isn't the right type for transmission anyway...
 
hi there eveyone!!

the actual dstv decoder i think is pretty safe, but the cards are not...
the older version (ie ver 2 & 4) can be shared with linux decoders quite easily, since the new ver zeta cards are out its another story.... we in SA got the ver zeta dstv cards over a year ago.. in the East of the world dstv used the ver 2 & 4 cards. it began a sharing mayhem!! now dstv's not renewing any c-band subs unlees u getting a new version zeta card, clever bastards!!!
Irdeto2 is hacked, just not very public. Gammacards loaded with right files can open dstv on c-band!!!! there are some guys in SA with these cards...in the very near future there will be emulators too...

many satellite providers worldwide went the irdeto encryption way, due to this there are just more people interested in cracking it!!

:p
 
Why hack DSTV? ... Its like hacking open a tin of expired bully-beef. (You know is crap inside, but you wanna just take a look)

btw rhinosairusrex... Zeta cards are compromised.
 
The newest decoders are married to the card and only that card. You can't use any other official decoder with it.
 
Ricard said:
Why hack DSTV? ... Its like hacking open a tin of expired bully-beef. (You know is crap inside, but you wanna just take a look)

btw rhinosairusrex... Zeta cards are compromised.
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WHY HACK DSTV- answer = why pay for it, when its a frot can of bullybeef!!!

unfortunatly its the ONLY pay service available to SA!! what else is there at the moment???
NADA!!!
 
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