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That George mall was packed...PACKED during December. I personally saw people sitting on top of each other in restaurants in a mall in PLZ. But they closed beaches...go figure!
In a world where there were no costs associated with doing so that might be reasonable. We don't live in that world. But the measures put in place by governments come with their own costs. And they're taking these steps recklessly with exactly that attitude,
It's true that most will have this experience.
It doesn't exploit anything. It's not sneaky. It is just a virus.
Much lower than that. If 100 get infected probably at least 50 will never even be a positive test statistic. And that's a conservative estimate. Could be 80 or 95.
Funny how no-one worried about these things before this virus, even though they were happening to people who experienced viral infections. It's been said many times, but we need facts about the rate of incidence and severity, and comparison to rates with other infections, not scaremongering.
Potentially deadly. But why does the state, with the assistance of the media, need to keep up the hype? Why exaggerate the situation by mentioning the total infections to date? Or the new cases, but not the recoveries? Why isn't active cases the key number tracked? Why isn't the daily percentage increase/decrease in active cases prominently presented? What's the real motive? Or are the leaders just idiots? Anyone who realises they're using numbers intended to mislead is going to then mistrust everything.
i don't think they'll do a harder lockdown, although NDZ seems hellbent on it a we ban everything including alcohol, cigarettes and breathing.
That senile thing has more than one screw loose
Another possibility is that they simply aren't actually that effective even when followed. This is something people are very reluctant to accept.
They should change the term anyway. Social distancing sounds very Orwellian. What they mean is physical distancing. I can socially distance myself from someone while standing right up against them.
That data doesn't exist as far as I can tell. Many people have asked to see the science behind closing beaches for example. Given their attitude and history it seems quite likely that closing beaches along the south coast and then in Cape Town too was mostly motivated by sticking it to areas controlled by the Democratic Alliance. That it is not driven by science and probably about spite seems obvious when considering that they're sending troops to areas that have had declining daily cases and deaths since about 16 December. In fact daily deaths appear to be way down all over the province.
Well in regard to violent crime, particularly murder, that is partly because if you're living in a middle class or more expensive area there really isn't a lot of it. Although the word carnage is used for road deaths the number of fatalities is in the region of 12,000 isn't it? Considering the number of kilometres travelled your chance of dying on the road probably isn't that high, and it's probably lower for those who can afford better cars.
Well for one thing so far it is not even close to being in the same league as the Great Plague. Bubonic plague is far deadlier than COVID-19. Even if left to run wild. On the other hand information we have indicates that people struggled to maintain changes to their lives. We know from more recent pandemics in the 20th century that adherence to measures starts to slip after a while and that trying to maintain them inevitably fails. Psychological research also tells us to expect this inevitability. This is another reason why the extreme measures being forced on the public are so counter-productive. It made sense when the authorities appeared to believe, and told people, they'd be in place very briefly. In that case an all out sprint made sense. Now they're demanding that people continue sprinting indefinitely.
How could they take account of safety protocols when they have no idea how effective each is?
Those who are already terrified would buy into that. I don't see it being convincing to anyone else. In fact they'd find such ridiculous propaganda completely laughable.
I think we've all seen this before. Ordinary people can't follow hospital level contamination hazard protocols all day every day. So it is fairly pointless showing anything being killed by them.
Well it is not passed on by dancing. But again there's no point expecting people to keep this up indefinitely. AIDS was a simpler thing - basically don't let someone bleed all over you and don't have sex with them without protection. It still spread though. It has never really been contained. Telling people they might have to keep up the current SARS-CoV-2 nonsense for years is going to get the expected f*** it response.
Actually plenty of people are doing the best they can, but they get the big f*** you from the fanatics. The ones who demand more measures, more extreme punishments. The rubbish about killing grannies doesn't help the fanatics' cause.
You can't enforce it. Plenty of people will avoid getting tested too if they think the state goons will try to lock them up somewhere. Rightly so. Hence we have to rely on people who have somewhere to live staying home for the 14 or 10 days.
Yes, that looks exactly like the attitude of fans of burning everything to the ground. The harsher measures sort.
