Do you believe aliens exist?

Do you believe aliens exist?

  • Yes

    Votes: 351 69.1%

  • No

    Votes: 105 20.7%

  • Other

    Votes: 52 10.2%
  • Total voters
    508
Yes, but with qualifications.
1. One has to assume that the question refers to living creatures not from earth, rather than non-RSA residents.
2. Given the vastness of the universe, or even our galaxy, it would be unlikely that life has not risen or been placed by a deity or higher civilization "gardeners" or experimenters.
3. Having visited earth - possibly, but then went away again.
4.Currently buzzing around the skies or shopping in Sandton - No. Evidence of UFOs is still not very convincing. [Come to think of it, Sandton Square on a Saturday does have some oddities that might well be aliens!]
 
Seems we already have scientific evidence of alien technology.

Perhaps validation of what I heard on the broken radio about how some ET's are coming with meteors.

 
Trump built a long wall to keep the aliens out
 
OCP said:
This.

Building blocks for simple life seems to be everywhere and looking at our sample size of 1 (ie. Earth) we find simple life existing all over including in the harshest conditions.

So would be extremely likely to find microbes / fungi / etc common in the universe.

We also are only aware of carbon based life (ie. Us and everything else on planet earth) - who is to say there are elements out there we have not yet encountered, that could be the building blocks for a type of life we can't even conceive yet.

Space is big ... so incredibly big we as puny humans can barely comprehend the (observable) vastness of it all.

Would be rather egotistical to think in all that space we are the only ones.
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Oh really? And how did it start out exactly? We still don't know the answer to how life got started here on earth (if you're an evolutionist that is) yet you proclaim that it is a simple thing?

Even Dawkins admitted that it was possible that aliens seeded us on earth, BUT (and here he ruined his reputation) those aliens would have to have come from natural means. It's so deceitful it's a joke really.

The co-discoverer of DNA thought DNA was too well designed that he believed in directed panspermia.
 
OutlawJoseyWales said:
Oh really? And how did it start out exactly? We still don't know the answer to how life got started here on earth (if you're an evolutionist that is) yet you proclaim that it is a simple thing?

Even Dawkins admitted that it was possible that aliens seeded us on earth, BUT (and here he ruined his reputation) those aliens would have to have come from natural means. It's so deceitful it's a joke really.

The co-discoverer of DNA thought DNA was too well designed that he believed in directed panspermia.
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I never proclaimed anything and life is by no means a simple thing if you consider how many millions years it took to make minor progressions; never mind complex multi-cell organisms.

We only have a sample size of one so it would be disingenuous to state anything with certainty - these are best guesses with the limited info right now.
Once we venture (if we ever do) into the universe we will hopefully get more concrete answers.
 
OCP said:
I never proclaimed anything and life is by no means a simple thing if you consider how many millions years it took to make minor progressions; never mind complex multi-cell organisms.

We only have a sample size of one so it would be disingenuous to state anything with certainty - these are best guesses with the limited info right now.
Once we venture (if we ever do) into the universe we will hopefully get more concrete answers.
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It's even more complex considering the larger 1800 year old Peru mummy found in 2018 turned out to be tridactyl ape hybrid with the same number of chromosomes as a human.
 
I remember a while back some physisist explained that 10% thing...

Look at stars in our galaxy that is the same as the sun. size, age etc... take 10% of those.
How many had planets that were the same as ours? in the Goldilocks band, distance from star. 10% again
They did quite a few of these 10% reductions.
With that calc they got a sum of planets that have a sun like ours, same temperature, have water, same size as earth blah blah blah. it was 42 000 or something.

There are 42 000 planets basically like earth, just in our galaxy. the odds of just us having life.. come on....
 
Big Rat said:
I remember a while back some physisist explained that 10% thing...

Look at stars in our galaxy that is the same as the sun. size, age etc... take 10% of those.
How many had planets that were the same as ours? in the Goldilocks band, distance from star. 10% again
They did quite a few of these 10% reductions.
With that calc they got a sum of planets that have a sun like ours, same temperature, have water, same size as earth blah blah blah. it was 42 000 or something.

There are 42 000 planets basically like earth, just in our galaxy. the odds of just us having life.. come on....
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I think part of that human arrogance is that we assume that if there is anything else living in the universe, that it can only live if it’s in the exact same conditions as us. Who says that something else needs oxygen to breathe, for example? They could be thriving in a nitrogen-rich environment for all we know.
 
The Voice said:
I think part of that human arrogance is that we assume that if there is anything else living in the universe, that it can only live if it’s in the exact same conditions as us. Who says that something else needs oxygen to breathe, for example? They could be thriving in a nitrogen-rich environment for all we know.
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i can understand that we can work with what we know. carbon based, needs oxygen and water. the mere fact that we have at least 42 000 planets in our galaxy alone that does that cannot be ignored on the 'we are alone'.
And then your argument comes into play, who says only those 42 000 can support life? As you say, silica based lizards that needs nitrogen could be running around as well. not all life is necessarily carbon and oxygen.
 
"Two stubborn fasteners trapped invaluable material sampled from an asteroid — but after a monthslong process, it has finally been released, NASA announced Thursday."

Given the last 4 years, should we really be doing this? do we really wanna do it...
 
neoprema said:
Given the last 4 years, should we really be doing this? do we really wanna do it...
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In the wild, a hungry angry lion... i'm gonna flick his nuts for him...
That is what i imagine every time scientists closed their eyes, and flick a switch. oh, still alive!!!
Anything in Egypt should be left the hell alone for now.
Anything popping up under the ice in Antarctica should be left the hell alone.
Just leave the whole bloody Mexico and Inca status alone...
Anything in Space further than the moon, leave it....
 
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