Do you believe aliens exist?

Do you believe aliens exist?

  • Yes

    Votes: 351 69.1%

  • No

    Votes: 105 20.7%

  • Other

    Votes: 52 10.2%
  • Total voters
    508
wizardofid said:
Not all cultures developed the same way, but that doesn’t make any of them “primitive.” They just worked with what they had and observed the world around them. You don’t need telescopes or calculators to notice patterns — the sun rises between those two rocks, the air gets colder after that, the animals start moving — boom, you’ve got a calendar. Observation was their technology, and the village elder was basically the local data server, keeping the knowledge alive through stories.
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I wonder how they figured this one out?
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wingnut771 said:
I wonder how they figured this one out?
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Observational science yeah it is a thing, it is as old as time, literally as you can view things as they were 13.5billion years ago.

Countless things ancients discovered have been lost, we have rediscovered several of their inventions or things.

Just some example of things we rediscovered, there is also a few things of we don't know or we don't exactly know.

Roman Concrete: The Romans perfected a method of mixing volcanic ash, lime, and seawater to create a durable concrete that, in some cases, has outlasted modern Portland cement structures. The exact recipe and method were lost for centuries and not recovered until the 18th century.

The Antikythera Mechanism: This complex bronze device, discovered in a shipwreck dated to the 1st or 2nd century BC, is considered the earliest known analog computer, used for charting astronomical positions and predicting eclipses. Knowledge of such intricate gear-based mechanisms disappeared for over a thousand years.

Greek Fire: The Byzantine Empire used an incendiary weapon that could burn on water, a form of primitive napalm. The precise chemical composition and manufacturing method were a closely guarded secret and are still not fully known today.

Damascus Steel: Blades forged with this type of steel were renowned for their exceptional strength and cutting ability. The method for creating the specific internal structure (using wootz steel from India) was lost around the 18th century and is still debated by metallurgists.

Perspective in Art: The concept of linear perspective was understood and used by artists in antiquity but was lost after the fall of the Roman Empire and not recovered until the Renaissance.

Ancient Texts and Literature: The destruction of major libraries, such as the Library of Alexandria and the House of Wisdom in Baghdad, resulted in the permanent loss of countless works on philosophy, science, and literature. Recovered works, like a copy of Lucretius' De Rerum Natura found in a German monastery in 1417, were instrumental in shaping new eras like the Renaissance.

Mummification and Advanced Medical Practices: Ancient Egyptians had advanced knowledge of anatomy and preservation techniques (mummification) that were held secret by chief priests and largely lost after foreign conquests.

Sustainable Agriculture: Ancient civilizations developed highly effective, localized agricultural methods, such as the Aztec chinampas (floating gardens) or Peruvian reservoir systems, that are being "rediscovered" for modern sustainable practices
 
wizardofid said:
Observational science yeah it is a thing, it is as old as time, literally as you can view things as they were 13.5billion years ago.

Countless things ancients discovered have been lost, we have rediscovered several of their inventions or things.

Just some example of things we rediscovered, there is also a few things of we don't know or we don't exactly know.

Roman Concrete: The Romans perfected a method of mixing volcanic ash, lime, and seawater to create a durable concrete that, in some cases, has outlasted modern Portland cement structures. The exact recipe and method were lost for centuries and not recovered until the 18th century.

The Antikythera Mechanism: This complex bronze device, discovered in a shipwreck dated to the 1st or 2nd century BC, is considered the earliest known analog computer, used for charting astronomical positions and predicting eclipses. Knowledge of such intricate gear-based mechanisms disappeared for over a thousand years.

Greek Fire: The Byzantine Empire used an incendiary weapon that could burn on water, a form of primitive napalm. The precise chemical composition and manufacturing method were a closely guarded secret and are still not fully known today.

Damascus Steel: Blades forged with this type of steel were renowned for their exceptional strength and cutting ability. The method for creating the specific internal structure (using wootz steel from India) was lost around the 18th century and is still debated by metallurgists.

Perspective in Art: The concept of linear perspective was understood and used by artists in antiquity but was lost after the fall of the Roman Empire and not recovered until the Renaissance.

Ancient Texts and Literature: The destruction of major libraries, such as the Library of Alexandria and the House of Wisdom in Baghdad, resulted in the permanent loss of countless works on philosophy, science, and literature. Recovered works, like a copy of Lucretius' De Rerum Natura found in a German monastery in 1417, were instrumental in shaping new eras like the Renaissance.

Mummification and Advanced Medical Practices: Ancient Egyptians had advanced knowledge of anatomy and preservation techniques (mummification) that were held secret by chief priests and largely lost after foreign conquests.

Sustainable Agriculture: Ancient civilizations developed highly effective, localized agricultural methods, such as the Aztec chinampas (floating gardens) or Peruvian reservoir systems, that are being "rediscovered" for modern sustainable practices
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There is also a lot of things lost to history, entire civilizations, records, writings. There might've been a lot more things we have no idea what actually existed.
www.theguardian.com

Lost Amazon villages uncovered by archaeologists

81 settlements have been found in an area once thought to have been near-uninhabited, and research suggests there were hundreds more
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
Lupus said:
There is also a lot of things lost to history, entire civilizations, records, writings. There might've been a lot more things we have no idea what actually existed.
www.theguardian.com

Lost Amazon villages uncovered by archaeologists

81 settlements have been found in an area once thought to have been near-uninhabited, and research suggests there were hundreds more
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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Like Antarctica?
 
wizardofid said:
Someone is getting an earth globe for xmas..........
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Though he is right, it doesn't freeze like the Arctic does, but it's cause the water is a lot more saltier and water doesn't freeze when it has that much salt.
Also the Arctic isn't really a massive landmass, just sheets of ice, thick sheets of ice, where Antarctica is a massive land mass with ice on top so the dynamics of the two areas would be different as well.
 
wizardofid said:
Back in the late ‘90s, a guy named Jonathan Reed (real name supposedly John Rutter) claimed he was out hiking near Mount Rainier when his dog got attacked by a small alien. Reed said he whacked the thing with a stick, killed it, and then took it home. He even showed off a video of the body and some supposed “alien bracelet” that could teleport him. Sounds like prime-time Discovery Channel weirdness, right?

Now, when people actually dug into it, the whole thing started to fall apart fast. The “alien” looked like a store-bought prop. The footage was conveniently shaky, grainy, and edited in a way that screamed “camcorder horror project.” Then came the big one: people recognized Reed as a guy who’d previously been involved in other hoaxes under different names. Not exactly a good look for an interdimensional whistleblower.

Then he tried to back it all up with a few “scientific tests” — which, surprise surprise, turned out to be done by no one credible. Every photo, video, and “sample” he ever presented was either lost, stolen, or conveniently destroyed in some bizarre conspiracy story. And that teleportation bracelet? Never worked on camera. Ever.

In short, the whole thing checks every box of a classic UFO hoax: shaky video, missing evidence, unverifiable witnesses, and a lead character who changes his story every few years. The alien looked less like E.T. and more like something from a Halloween store clearance bin.

So yeah — Jonathan Reed didn’t meet an alien in the woods. He met a great idea for a sci-fi fan film, and then just... kept pretending it was real.
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The videos are not lost. They're posted on YouTube. And he didn't change his story, as he didn't need to as there is plenty video evidence. Quality of the videos is consistent with the technology available in 1996.

Comparing the reenactment to the original video it's clear to see there is a difference. In the freezer recording of the original video, the near the end, you can see a brief, shallow movement of the chest or abdomen — almost like a faint inhale — followed by a twitch or micro-spasm. That doesn't seem like it can be faked.

Also, about the craft. How did he fake a hovering craft in 1996?
 
Jings said:
The videos are not lost. They're posted on YouTube. And he didn't change his story, as he didn't need to as there is plenty video evidence. Quality of the videos is consistent with the technology available in 1996.

Comparing the reenactment to the original video it's clear to see there is a difference. In the freezer recording of the original video, the near the end, you can see a brief, shallow movement of the chest or abdomen — almost like a faint inhale — followed by a twitch or micro-spasm. That doesn't seem like it can be faked.

Also, about the craft. How did he fake a hovering craft in 1996?
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Yeah, see, that’s the funny part people always skip over — everyone points at that little “breathing” motion like it’s some smoking gun, but no one stops to ask why an alien would even be breathing like a human in the first place.

If this thing supposedly came from another planet, or another dimension, what are the odds it evolved lungs, a diaphragm, and a nervous system that twitches the same way ours does when we die? That’s some real cosmic coincidence right there. Whole different gravity, atmosphere, biology — yet somehow it still gasps for air like a dude passed out at the gym. Makes zero sense.

Even if you did see a twitch, that doesn’t mean “alive.” Dead tissue or flexible rubber under freezing conditions can shift a little when light or temperature changes — especially under a flickering bulb and grainy VHS compression. That tiny flicker people swear is “breathing” could just be lighting distortion or the guy bumping the camera. Anyone who’s messed with old tapes knows how much fake “motion” you can get from static and compression noise alone.

And let’s be real — Reed’s “alien” looks like something out of a late-’90s effects workshop. No pores, no muscle tone, stiff joints. Every supposed “original” video online is the same copy-of-a-copy version, conveniently missing clear close-ups or continuous uncut shots. You’d think if someone had an alien corpse, they’d at least film the whole thing in one take before shoving it in a freezer next to the frozen peas.

So yeah, even ignoring the sketchy backstory and missing evidence, the whole “look, it twitched!” claim just doesn’t hold water. We’re not talking about a real biological specimen here — we’re talking about bad lighting, tape noise, and people seeing what they want to see.
 
wingnut771 said:
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Nice another fake AI video :)

Why tf zoom in and out, who the fck does that


Also then there is this, it took a bit of time, but found the exact spot. There is some glaring issues with what street view has from 2019 and 2022 and when compared to 2025.

The video from 2025 shows lots of trees in the side street to the right. Google earth view is also a lot newer. The road also doesn't match the video, shows the road as much newer. Missing street crossing markings.

There is a lot of AI fill in the blanks here. Definitely one of the easier ones to point out is fake


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Explore a place in a more immersive way in Google Maps.
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