Do you believe aliens exist?

Do you believe aliens exist?

  • Yes

    Votes: 215 81.1%

  • No

    Votes: 50 18.9%
  • Total voters
    265
Agent_Smith said:
Show me that intelligent life exists on this planet then I'll start to consider the possibility that it exists elsewhere in the universe.
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He typed from his electronic device connected to a ubiquitous planetary network designed for the intercontinental exchange of information in less than a second.
 
rietrot said:
They will most likely have their own gods. We'll try and convert them and they'll try and convert us.
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If they're capable of getting all this way to meet us I doubt they'll believe anything nearly as insane as most of our religions push.
 
rietrot said:
They will most likely have their own gods. We'll try and convert them and they'll try and convert us.
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Only if they're backward stone-age types. If they've grasped the elements of reason they'll understand the ontological arguments and we'll agree on First Cause/Prime Mover, ie existence and nature of Almighty God - that's a matter of pure reason, not revelation and belief.
 
Arthur said:
existence and nature of Almighty God - that's a matter of pure reason, not revelation and belief.
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How do you arrive at God (and his nature) by pure reason?
Or is this bait....
 
Arthur said:
Only if they're backward stone-age types. If they've grasped the elements of reason they'll understand the ontological arguments and we'll agree on First Cause/Prime Mover, ie existence and nature of Almighty God - that's a matter of pure reason, not revelation and belief.
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It could go any direction, peaceful or not. I do think dough that itis highly unlikely for them to be atheists as that is a very unnatural position to take.
 
RedViking said:
I understand. But who is it?
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Speaking to humans, his own name for himself is "The One Who Is". In other words, the only being that does not have contingent existence, who has existence as part of his essence, who just IS. Everything else we encounter is contingent, requiring a further account of its existence.
 
Arthur said:
Rationally speaking there can only be one first cause. Period.
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Rationally speaking, "I don't know" is the more reasonable answer.
That you think reason gets you to God, let alone the particular one you believe in is absurd.
 
Arthur said:
Speaking to humans, his own name for himself is "The One Who Is". In other words, the only being that does not have contingent existence, who has existence as part of his essence, who just IS. Everything else we encounter is contingent, requiring a further account of its existence.
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Do we talk to him? Does he talk us?
 
saor said:
Rationally speaking, "I don't know" is the more reasonable answer.
That you think reason gets you to God, let alone the particular one you believe in is absurd.
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I know in exactly the same way that I know the sum of the internal angles of a plane triangle is exactly 180 degrees. Precisely, to the atom. Not a smidgeon less or more. Even if I never encounter such a triangle in the physical world in order to verify/measure it. It is axiomatic. Same as the existence of the first cause.
 
Arthur said:
I know in exactly the same way that I know the sum of the internal angles of a plane triangle is exactly 180 degrees. Precisely, to the atom. Not a smidgeon less or more. Even if I never encounter such a triangle in the physical world in order to verify/measure it.
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I can make the same such conflationary assertion about my belief in unicorns. Reason isn't getting me to unicorns, but rather a giant leap.
 
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