Does South Africa have a drinking problem?

Does SA have a drinking problem

  • Yes

    Votes: 179 64.2%

  • No

    Votes: 89 31.9%

  • Other (I may suffer from aboulomania)

    Votes: 11 3.9%
  • Total voters
    279
Geoff.D said:
Yes but making the innocent pay more because the guilty can't control themselves is NOT the answer!
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In this case, however, irrespective of how the guilty may be conducting themsleves, the innocent are most likely not buying and therefore not paying anything at all.
 
Gozado said:
In this case, however, irrespective of how the guilty may be conducting themsleves, the innocent are most likely not buying and therefore not paying anything at all.
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I think by "innocent", he is referring to yhe very few who drink moderately ...

Not those who do not drink. But yeah ... , a rough circle. Those who drink heavily, will keep on drinking and paying, till a point, then they will make their own.

Ultimately a counter productive route to follow, but then government is not known for being intelligent or informed, nor caring about other people's values or concerns. Only interest they hsve is their own private pocket.
 
I thought SA had a drinking problem until I moved to Europe. Thinking about it I'm drinking way more than when in SA, especially with lockdowns, time to detox.

ronald911 said:
They could go the Singapore route -> Make it available 24/7, sell it everywhere, tax the hell out of it, 0 tolerance with driving.

That way most people would be happy.
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The foundation for this approach is affective law enforcement. In South Africa where the ruling party is largely criminals that have done everything to weaken the justice system, all taxation will do is promote further criminal activities.
 
RVQ said:
I thought SA had a drinking problem until I moved to Europe. Thinking about it I'm drinking way more than when in SA, especially with lockdowns, time to detox.



The foundation for this approach is affective law enforcement. In South Africa where the ruling party is largely criminals that have done everything to weaken the justice system, all taxation will do is promote further criminal activities.
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Big problem is no effective policing what so ever, cultural attitude, of "Dis net MANNE wat kan drink", especially among the lower income groups does not help in the least. Or the "Boetman, jy MOET soos n MAN kan drink". crowd.

Not good.
 
They keep trying to address the symptom. Without tackling the causes they won't get anywhere.

So either they're idiots or this is really an excuse to sneak in a tax they know many of the gullible will support.

DesertWrangler said:
I live in a country ruled by Sharia law and can attest to the fact that it does little other than suppress the vices, forcing them underground. Drug and alcohol abuse is rampant. Spousal abuse is common place and the rich are untouchable.

I must admit though, violent crime is almost non-existent and even petty crime is pretty low.
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You've just stated that violent crime is not non-existent. What you mean is there's plenty of violent crime, but you just happen to not have to worry about being a victim yourself.

ronald911 said:
They could go the Singapore route -> Make it available 24/7, sell it everywhere, tax the hell out of it, 0 tolerance with driving.

That way most people would be happy.
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It's already heavily taxed in South Africa and there are more than adequate laws around driving under the influence. There are also restrictions on when and where it can be purchased.

Wary GOM said:
That's why I spent many years in an Arab country. Having one's skills VALUED is pretty important.
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Everyone I know found they were paid well, but were not at all valued. At best they were viewed as second class.
 
Does South Africa have a drinking problem?

Is money from alcohol sales and related industries being highly taxed and/or diverted into highly placed government officials' pockets?

If yes, then no.
If not, then Boooyeaahhh! The country's full of poor, ignorant alcoholics that must be saved! And it's the goverment's proud duty to save people from themselves (*cough*their money)
 
ANC has driven me to drink more. Previously, booze was a fun thing. Now I abuse it. That is the price I pay to try and stay sane in a filthy ANC world.

Where stealing is accepted and corruption is the norm. Here where I am it is killing me. How can I stay sane if customers I'm helping with repairing their old TVs vote the ANC in every time? Effectively I'm over it. I'm slogging awa
 
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