Don't we just all hate Americans

halicon said:
IRAN have NEVER attacked a country outside it's border. AMERICA has ATTACKED MANY countries. comprehendo?
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No not because they maybe do not have the power but they support terrorists to do their dirty work. They even intimidate their own PPL like Fidel Castro. They are the Arab version of the savage or native in the mideast.
Just pray they do not get success to produce a nuke as then every terrorist group will have one too!
 
pupa said:
No not because they maybe do not have the power but they support terrorists to do their dirty work. They even intimidate their own PPL like Fidel Castro. They are the Arab version of the savage or native in the mideast.
Just pray they do not get success to produce a nuke as then every terrorist group will have one too!
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there are no terrorists... unless you really believe osama bin laden really orchestrated the attacks on 9/11.

give me 100% proof this man did it.
 
nivek, you have misunderstood me, i agree with you, but america should mind it's own business is what i ment.
but the world would be a better place with proper leadership in Iran and Iraq.
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True, but this is not USA's responsibility. Ahmadinejad should not have the right to the west's intelectual property, if the nations who developed the tecnology don't want it in the hands of the "new hitler"(what he calls himself) or the guy who says that Israel should be wiped off the map(nuked), (Idiot) . I going to buy gold shares like Gold fields or Harmony, and bank the evil in the world, cause when the US or blair gets a uppity and wants war the oil is gonna fly, Ahmadinejad is a crazy illogical bighead IMO
 
BOREDOFTELKOM said:
If the USA didn't exsist, you would not be typing, or doing anything on MyAdsl, or anything on the internet, their would be no internet, no reson to hate telkom, and no DSTV . metaphorically speaking, SA style rocks, but only with americas guitar. Bush sounds funni;) thouugh.
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Sorry to burst this bubble of incorrect belief! The "internet" was developed outside the USA, with the first successful tests achieved between universities in England and Scandinavia! The reason why everybody thinks it is an American achievement, is that it was done for the Pentagon...
 
Most Americans I've met personally have been very decent people. Intelligence, eloquent, etc.
 
ettubrute said:
Sorry to burst this bubble of incorrect belief! The "internet" was developed outside the USA, with the first successful tests achieved between universities in England and Scandinavia! The reason why everybody thinks it is an American achievement, is that it was done for the Pentagon...
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Wikipedia said:
The first TCP/IP wide area network was operational by January 1, 1983 (this is technically the birth of the Internet), when the United States' National Science Foundation (NSF) constructed a university network backbone that would later become the NSFNet. It was then followed by the opening of the network to commercial interests in 1995. Important separate networks that offered gateways into, then later merged into the Internet include Usenet, Bitnet and the various commercial and educational X.25 networks such as Compuserve and JANET. The ability of TCP/IP to work over these pre-existing communication networks allowed for a great ease of growth. Use of Internet as a phrase to describe a single global TCP/IP network originated around this time.
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Debatable?
 
Ok, I'll have to find it again... Did the research way back in 1995, and found it somewhere on the internet. Seems Wikipedia can be wrong as well! :p

Give me a couple of hours... ;)
 
ettubrute said:
Sorry to burst this bubble of incorrect belief! The "internet" was developed outside the USA, with the first successful tests achieved between universities in England and Scandinavia! The reason why everybody thinks it is an American achievement, is that it was done for the Pentagon...
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@ettu: Do you have any references for this, because all my books make references to DARPA funding an R&D project to create an experimental packet switched network in 1969 and then nothing until administration of the ARPANET was handed over to the DCA in 1975.
 
ettubrute said:
Ok, I'll have to find it again... Did the research way back in 1995, and found it somewhere on the internet. Seems Wikipedia can be wrong as well! :p

Give me a couple of hours... ;)
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Could simply be a matter of semantics. :)
 
Ok, haven't found my original source, but it seems it was more a question of "parallel development".

In late 1966 Roberts went to DARPA to develop the computer network concept and quickly put together his plan for the "ARPANET", publishing it in 1967. At the conference where he presented the paper, there was also a paper on a packet network concept from the UK by Donald Davies and Roger Scantlebury of NPL. Scantlebury told Roberts about the NPL work as well as that of Paul Baran and others at RAND. The RAND group had written a paper on packet switching networks for secure voice in the military in 1964. It happened that the work at MIT (1961-1967), at RAND (1962-1965), and at NPL (1964-1967) had all proceeded in parallel without any of the researchers knowing about the other work. The word "packet" was adopted from the work at NPL and the proposed line speed to be used in the ARPANET design was upgraded from 2.4 kbps to 50 kbps.
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But it doesn't say when the UK variant went live... will search further! ;)
 
I stand (halfway) corrected! Sorry...

It really seems to be a parallel development, and even parallel testing! The networks seemed to have gone up both in the USA and the UK in 1968... but, while the USA started with 50Kbps connection which was later upgraded to 64Kbps, UK had 768Kbps! Thus, UK rulez! :p

The implementation of Packet Switching into a real network developed in parallel in the US and in the UK. In 1968, two network projects were started: in the US it was started under the auspices of the Advanced Research Networks Agency (ARPA), so that the project was called Arpanet, under the leadership of Larry Roberts - the Director of the relevant office. In the UK it was started at the National Physical Laboratory under its then Laboratory Superintendent Donald Davies and called the NPL Network. The NPL network was comparatively modest in scale, with only a few nodes inside NPL, but with a speed of 768 Kbps. In the US, a much more expensive wide-area network project was mounted. By the end of 1970, it connected around 20 sites, and had two cross-country telephone lines. Its lines were run at 64 Kbps.

The third ingredient for the international extension of the Arpanet was a quite separate development. In 1966, ARPA had established a set of three seismic arrays: in Alaska, Montana and Norway. The last, called the NORSAR array, was at Kjeller, near Oslo. A formal bilateral treaty had established this array and the corresponding collaboration with the US. The arrays were operated for ARPA under the auspices of their Nuclear Monitoring Research Office (NMRO). By 1970, there was a communications link at 9.6 Kbps between Washington and NORSAR. Because of the transatlantic technology of the time, this channel went by Satellite to the UK; in London it was connected onto to a cable to Kjeller.
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The second paragraph is where my reference to Scandinavia comes from... ;)
 
Good work ettu`.

Certainly would be a worthy correction to wikipedia.
 
Yeah - what's the procedure for submitting an addition to wikipedia?
 
What a silly thread, It's like me saying I hate all blacks because they believe in ancestor worship and uses muti made from people. eish...
 
neio said:
What a silly thread, It's like me saying I hate all blacks because they believe in ancestor worship and uses muti made from people. eish...
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Just tibby being hypocritical. If you said something like that he'd be all up in arms.
 
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