Dr. Cyril Karabus Trial in the UAE

Hemi300c said:
They going to struggle to get foreign doctors there if they treat them like this.
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You have to hope that there are some repercussions for what they are doing. It is absolutely cruel and has nothing to do with justice. You have gotta believe if this was an American doctor they wouldn't pull this nonsense.
 
WITS to boycott the UAE over Karabus Case

WITS ETHICS AND STANDARDS COMMITTEE CALLS FOR A BOYCOTT OF ACTIVITIES AND PROGRAMMES ASSOCIATED WITH THE UAE

Based on the manner in which the judicial system of the United Arab Emirates (UAE) has treated a fellow colleague, Professor Cyril Karabus, the Professional Ethics and Standards Committee (PESC) of the Faculty of Health Sciences at the University of the Witwatersrand is calling for a boycott of all activities associated with the UAE, including the Africa Health Conference to be held between 7 and 9 May 2013 in Johannesburg.

The PESC has described the process as being "morally indefensible and a gross travesty of justice".

Based on its core values, which includes the duty to support colleagues whose human rights have been infringed, and while recognising and respecting academic freedom and personal choice, the PESC has called for the boycott.

The Africa Health Conference is organised by Informa Life Science Exhibitions, which has its headquarters in Dubai in the UAE.

"The organisers are not academics belonging to academic institutions -this program is purely a business venture. Many leading South African academics and others from abroad will be participating as presenters or speakers, while several Wits academics will also be participating. With the manner in which Dubai has handled the Karabus case, how can we at Wits and in South Africa support such a conference?" says Prof. Ames Dhai, Director of the Steve Biko Centre for Bioethics in the Wits Faculty of Health Sciences.

Karabus, a 78-year-old South African paediatric oncologist has been detained in the UAE since 18 August 2012, after being sentenced in absentia for the death of a Yemeni patient he treated for leukaemia in 2002. He was acquitted on the charge on 21 March 2013, but was not allowed to leave the country as the prosecutor appealed the decision.

Source : Ends /avb
Date : 24 Apr 2013 12:25
 
Karabus Acquittal Appeal Rejected

The United Arab Emirates (UAE) has lost its appeal against the acquittal of South African doctor Cyril Karabus, the department of international relations and co-operation said on Wednesday.

"Our mission in the UAE informed us that the appeal judge rejected the appeal lodged yesterday [Tuesday], ahead of it being heard," said spokesman Nelson Kgwete.

"This is an encouraging sign, because it means the professor is one day closer to coming home and being reunited with his family in South Africa."

Kgwete said the prosecution had the right to lodge a second appeal, but had not indicated whether it would.

The 78-year-old South African paediatric oncologist has been detained in the UAE since August 18, after being sentenced in absentia for the death of a Yemeni girl he treated for leukaemia in 2002.

He was acquitted on March 21, but was not allowed to leave the country pending the appeal.


Source : Sapa /dm/fg/clh
Date : 24 Apr 2013 14:32
 
Karabus in 'Shock' after Success

South African doctor Cyril Karabus is in "a bit of shock" after the United Arab Emirates (UAE) lost its appeal against his earlier acquittal, his lawyer said on Wednesday.

"The doctor is not feeling good, he is in a bit of shock as the decision took him by surprise," lawyer Michael Bagraim said.

"His health is not that good so Karabus is lying down after hearing the good news."

Bagraim said the appeal was heard on Tuesday and the judge indicated the verdict would be on Monday, April 29.

The court phoned the attorneys in Abu Dhabi on Wednesday morning to say the judge reached a decision and wanted to deliver it earlier.

"The judge decided to not grant the State's appeal and said Karabus is not guilty on all the charges," Bagraim said.

The prosecution had 30 days to bring a new appeal, he said.

"We are asking them not to launch an appeal."

Bagraim said the attorneys in Abu Dhabi met with prosecutors on Wednesday.

The 78-year-old South African paediatric oncologist has been detained in the UAE since August 18, after being sentenced in absentia for the death of a Yemeni girl he treated for leukaemia in 2002.

He was acquitted on March 21, but was not allowed to leave the country pending the appeal.

The department of international relations and co-operation said the court's decision meant Karabus was closer to being reunited with his family.

"This is an encouraging sign, because it means the day is close when Prof Karabus will return home and will be reunited with his family in South Africa," spokesman Nelson Kgwete said.

Bagraim said the attorneys would apply to get Karabus's passport and visa as soon as they had the decision from the prosecutors about whether or not they would bring a new appeal.


Source : Sapa /dm/hdw/th/jk
Date : 24 Apr 2013 16:32
 
Garyvdh said:
South African doctor Cyril Karabus is in "a bit of shock" after the United Arab Emirates (UAE) lost its appeal against his earlier acquittal, his lawyer said on Wednesday.

"The doctor is not feeling good, he is in a bit of shock as the decision took him by surprise," lawyer Michael Bagraim said.

"His health is not that good so Karabus is lying down after hearing the good news."



Bagraim said the appeal was heard on Tuesday and the judge indicated the verdict would be on Monday, April 29.




The court phoned the attorneys in Abu Dhabi on Wednesday morning to say the judge reached a decision and wanted to deliver it earlier.

"The judge decided to not grant the State's appeal and said Karabus is not guilty on all the charges," Bagraim said.

The prosecution had 30 days to bring a new appeal, he said.

"We are asking them not to launch an appeal."

Bagraim said the attorneys in Abu Dhabi met with prosecutors on Wednesday.

The 78-year-old South African paediatric oncologist has been detained in the UAE since August 18, after being sentenced in absentia for the death of a Yemeni girl he treated for leukaemia in 2002.

He was acquitted on March 21, but was not allowed to leave the country pending the appeal.

The department of international relations and co-operation said the court's decision meant Karabus was closer to being reunited with his family.

"This is an encouraging sign, because it means the day is close when Prof Karabus will return home and will be reunited with his family in South Africa," spokesman Nelson Kgwete said.

Bagraim said the attorneys would apply to get Karabus's passport and visa as soon as they had the decision from the prosecutors about whether or not they would bring a new appeal.


Source : Sapa /dm/hdw/th/jk
Date : 24 Apr 2013 16:32
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Abu Dhabi's prosecutors won't let him go. It's their nature. They''ll bring a new appeal on the 12th hour. He'll get out eventually and I'll bet he never changes planes there again.
 
Karabus Cleared to Travel

South African doctor Cyril Karabus is waiting for his passport after the United Arab Emirates (UAE) cleared him to travel, his lawyer said on Monday.

"We are sitting and waiting for his [Karabus's] passport, but the wheels of admin are going slowly," lawyer Michael Bagraim said.

"We are literally just waiting for the return of the passport after everyone approved that he could get it and that he can return. It is an administrative wait."

The 78-year-old South African paediatric oncologist has been detained in the UAE since August 18 last year, after being sentenced in absentia for the death of a Yemeni girl he treated for leukaemia in 2002.

He was acquitted on March 21, but was not allowed to leave the country pending the appeal.

On April 24 the UAE lost its appeal against his earlier acquittal after an appeal judge said Karabus was not guilty on all the charges.

Bagraim said waiting for the passport was frustrating for Karabus.

"He knows he is free but there is a glitch stopping him. The wait is frustrating for him knowing he can come home.

"We just all have to be patient. We hope this doesn't translate into too much tension on his heart. He is all right but very, very frustrated. His speech is short and clipped."

Bagraim said should Karabus's passport be returned on Monday, he would fly back on Tuesday morning on a direct flight to South Africa.

The other direct flight would only be on Thursday.

"I've got a prayer that he will be back tomorrow night," he said.


Source : Sapa /dm/fg/jk/th
Date : 29 Apr 2013 14:39
 
Albereth said:
And Home Affairs didn't send him a new passport because.......?
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Because the UAE would probably not allow him to travel on a new passport.
They can refuse to recognise it.
In fact they can cause more trouble for him by accusing him of fraud if he tries to travel with a new passport.
They would say that they hold the real passport in their custody and that he is travelling on a fake passport.
 
Pathetic, they just causing him extra grief because they can.
 
Garyvdh said:
Because the UAE would probably not allow him to travel on a new passport.
They can refuse to recognise it.
In fact they can cause more trouble for him by accusing him of fraud if he tries to travel with a new passport.
They would say that they hold the real passport in their custody and that he is travelling on a fake passport.
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Not really - HA could have cancelled the old one and given him a new one.

The UAE can then accuse the government of fraud. Somehow I don't see that happening.
 
Albereth said:
Not really - HA could have cancelled the old one and given him a new one.

The UAE can then accuse the government of fraud. Somehow I don't see that happening.
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Home Affairs would never do that, it would create an international incident.
The point of a passport is to allow a foreign government to give you safe passage.
They must have trust and faith in the issuing authority before they will do that.
If governments simply revoked and re-issued passports, then it would undermine the trust that other governments have placed in them.
If a foreign government has seized someone's passport on suspicion of crime or for arrest, Home affairs must allow that foreign government to exhaust it's legal process first.
It's the mutual respect that all government's work on.
We would expect other government's to do the same with their citizens who are in SA.
Respect the rule of law in the land.

Anyway, it is a moot point, because if the UAE refused to release his passport, and our HA give him a new one, he would still never be allowed to leave that country by the authorities, so the new passport in effect becomes a useless document, there is not trust or recognition to back it up.
 
Garyvdh said:
Home Affairs would never do that, it would create an international incident.
The point of a passport is to allow a foreign government to give you safe passage.
They must have trust and faith in the issuing authority before they will do that.
If governments simply revoked and re-issued passports, then it would undermine the trust that other governments have placed in them.
If a foreign government has seized someone's passport on suspicion of crime or for arrest, Home affairs must allow that foreign government to exhaust it's legal process first.
It's the mutual respect that all government's work on.
We would expect other government's to do the same with their citizens who are in SA.
Respect the rule of law in the land.

Anyway, it is a moot point, because if the UAE refused to release his passport, and our HA give him a new one, he would still never be allowed to leave that country by the authorities, so the new passport in effect becomes a useless document, there is not trust or recognition to back it up.
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Passport has very little to do with it.

They will scan whatever document he as and the computer will show that there is a warrant out on him.

Access control is tight that side, you can't just sneak in and out.
 
Nerfherder said:
Passport has very little to do with it.
They will scan whatever document he as and the computer will show that there is a warrant out on him.
Access control is tight that side, you can't just sneak in and out.
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That's exactly what I am saying.
A new passport would be useless.
 
What do you think is going to happen? His passport will be 'lost' and he'll wait another week while they look for it. A handy replacement would be handy.
 
Albereth said:
What do you think is going to happen? His passport will be 'lost' and he'll wait another week while they look for it. A handy replacement would be handy.
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That's another matter. If they claim that it is lost, then he has a right to apply for a new one.
But as long as there is a legal process in the pipeline, then he cannot leave.
But what you are not understanding is that passport or no passport, if they want him to stay, they will just detain him again at the airport.
They won't let him leave if they don't want to.
A passport is not a magic wand.
 
Garyvdh said:
That's another matter. If they claim that it is lost, then he has a right to apply for a new one.
But as long as there is a legal process in the pipeline, then he cannot leave.
But what you are not understanding is that passport or no passport, if they want him to stay, they will just detain him again at the airport.
They won't let him leave if they don't want to.
A passport is not a magic wand.
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The hassle he would have just rocking up at an airport would more likely be about him not having a visa or entry stamp. As I understand it he was in transit when they arrested him (which was pretty dumb on his part to have routed through there). I doubt that he has any sort of permission to be there. Watch that space next.

Getting a new passport will avoid the 'oops we lost yours which I think they will pull based on their track record so far'. Having one he prepared earlier would speed things up.

Put it this way - wouldn't you rather have a spare passport in his situation?
 
On 5fm this morning they said his lawyers were on their way to get his passport, its a bit of a tricky situation now... they are making a serious move.
If they don't hand over the passport now or let him out the country then they are holding him hostage. The charges were rubbish but this is now ridiculous.

Hopefully if anything else happens our government intervenes.
 
Albereth said:
The hassle he would have just rocking up at an airport would more likely be about him not having a visa or entry stamp. As I understand it he was in transit when they arrested him (which was pretty dumb on his part to have routed through there). I doubt that he has any sort of permission to be there. Watch that space next.

Getting a new passport will avoid the 'oops we lost yours which I think they will pull based on their track record so far'. Having one he prepared earlier would speed things up.

Put it this way - wouldn't you rather have a spare passport in his situation?
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Spare passport means nothing.... read my post.

Also he went though Dubai, not Abu Dabi and was not aware of any charges against him anyway. Its not like he was avoiding the country. He was convicted in abstentia.
 
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