Druids only guild :)

Just a note, we did Underbog Heroic last night and had 2 feral druids , 1 enhanced shaman, 1 shadow priest and 1 holy priest . Now if you look at that carefully, your cc is somewhat gimped on all those elementals/nagas etc .

The 2 druid tanks ended up doing most of the cc'ing . Hibernate worked on all those flying bats/rays , so it was like hibernate -> shift bear -> tank/offtank the rest . Worked out quite well . Eventually the priests had to use some unconventional cc'ing too which worked amusingly well too [mind control 1 mob, attack another mob and you have 2 mobs out of combat ] .
 
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sorry this is gonna fail, even a easy 25man boss like high king maulgar needs a mage, not to mention the only raid buff you gonna get is MOTW???, thorns?
 
diesel said:
sorry this is gonna fail, even a easy 25man boss like high king maulgar needs a mage, not to mention the only raid buff you gonna get is MOTW???, thorns?
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Only buff lol dude feral in the group gives all a 5% crit buff on mellee and
one moonkin increases all spell crits in group 5% but i will really miss priest stamina buffs and mage intell buff but that what scrolls are for :)

Thx for your negetive input dude but i need ways and advice how to make it work nor how not cause i am half way with this no way i am turning back now .

The guys in the guild seem very optimistic about it all i need to try this .
Thx alot for cc tips i think well live i tanked as bear the instance next to mana tombs last nigth my first time in it we beaten it with no cc its not a must if tank does his job.I even exit tank form to inervate my healers if they go oom after i charge a stray mob to get distance from the 3 mobs on me and it is even as a tank possible to battle raz a healer on boss with adds by charging away from him i know its not easy to do but do able.

I have died a few times too when i tried above tactics....

If i get stunned out of bear form its ticket since all mobs are on me.

I have also seen 4 waroirs and a priest do a 5 man with no problems and no cc it actually when very well think druid can do it .....
 
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You could probably do stuff all the way up to 70 and even regular instances.

But I can tell you right now, this is not gonna work for heroics or raiding.
It just ain't gonna happen. Much as you'd like to make it work, whats gonna happen is that without effective cc and good 'flat' healing (pallies, shammies and priests) your tanks are going to suffer with multiple mobs and spike damage.

You could make this work as a casual instancing and pvp guild, but - and I'm not being negative here, I'm being realistic- you're simply going to frustrate the crap out of your members if/when you start raiding, and they're eventually going to move on to 'proper' raiding guilds.

Please believe me when i say that Raiding and Heroics needs very careful team construction. Seriously if you haven't even made 70 and tried raids/heroics, don't even try to tell anyone that it'll work. Yes, for normal instances sure, but there's a world of difference between normal instancing and raiding/heroic stuff.

Even if you do manage to, say, do pretty decently in Karazahn, you'll end up sharding so many purples and you'll get so much drama on leather drops that in the end the guild will simply implode.

I've seen this concept before with a 'holy only' guild, only paladins and priests allowed, and while it's novel and *can* work in certain limited situations, generally it's simply unviable for endgame content.
 
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kHayne said:
You could probably do stuff all the way up to 70 and even regular instances.

But I can tell you right now, this is not gonna work for heroics or raiding.
It just ain't gonna happen. Much as you'd like to make it work, whats gonna happen is that without effective cc and good 'flat' healing (pallies, shammies and priests) your tanks are going to suffer with multiple mobs and spike damage.

You could make this work as a casual instancing and pvp guild, but - and I'm not being negative here, I'm being realistic- you're simply going to frustrate the crap out of your members if/when you start raiding, and they're eventually going to move on to 'proper' raiding guilds.

Please believe me when i say that Raiding and Heroics needs very careful team construction. Seriously if you haven't even made 70 and tried raids/heroics, don't even try to tell anyone that it'll work. Yes, for normal instances sure, but there's a world of difference between normal instancing and raiding/heroic stuff.

Even if you do manage to, say, do pretty decently in Karazahn, you'll end up sharding so many purples and you'll get so much drama on leather drops that in the end the guild will simply implode.

I've seen this concept before with a 'holy only' guild, only paladins and priests allowed, and while it's novel and *can* work in certain limited situations, generally it's simply unviable for endgame content.
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Your rigth dude well have our limitatoins we wount be as imba as our father classes were hybrids after all well druid healers can keep more than one tank up while healing other hots are ticking away i dont think well have massive battles over gear well have too roll for it whoever gets it its his.So far i have seen people in guild get along better than any other guild i have been in i got allaiance with my old guild still helping the GM out with how to mannage guild hes noob but hes a good noob seems fair guy.
If we REALLY have to ill ask him to help us if we cant do it just druid but first well try and try and most probably die and die before we get it if we get it :)
 
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Wel, goood luck with it. You're gonna need it, lol.
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Well i have even seen a Moonkin fat owl tank Kara on yotube its not the best but is doable.

He did it while most were making fun of him a moonkin have same armour as bear but 25% less stamina.And he regens man on every hit.

People said it cant be done this guy did it.

And i should get you the pvp movie of a moonkin on Twigth Ligth Hammer this dude smokes anyone.
He really famous on wow official forums cant remember the name but you have too see it will make anyone see druid can own in rigth hands .
 
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I'd pay good money to see a Oomkin tank Prince in Phase 2. Maybe if you have 9 healers in the raid with you.
 
TheShogun said:
I'd pay good money to see a Oomkin tank Prince in Phase 2. Maybe if you have 9 healers in the raid with you.
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Go to this thread and youll see alot more can be done you so norrow minded dude.
Its all about this wow gratz on playing a game how you wanted to, having fun, and doing some cool %%#* in the process
Why is "you don't have a taunt" even a valid point here? If some how the mob got peeled off you just do that crazy thing called shifting forms and use bear taunt to snap the mob back to you. Just because a druid spec's balance doesn't mean taunt is lost on them.

Every one is saying gratz to this dude cause he pulled it off go read how
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/t...2?topicId=3271076334&postId=33537783864&sid=1
 
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Taunt? Did i mention Taunt?

It's a mitigation issue not a Taunt issue.

In Phase 2 Prince goes crazy hitting for very huge amounts. Typically in the fight your DPS will burn trinkets and cooldowns to try minimise the duration of the Phase.

I suppose a Oomkin could do it with he had incredibly well geared Healers and the DPS was solid enough to end the phase very very quickly.

Unfortunately you won't be able to do something like that until you're past Kara and gearing up in SSC/TK.
In 2.4 with the new badges rewards it might be more viable to do this in Kara/Badge gear but it's not something you can just prance in and do.

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After some consideration, I also think you'd need to be exceedingly lucky to do this successfully due to the mitigation issues. i.e Prince can't get a single decent roll and land a Crushing blow.
 
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Pls leave this threat dude you get some fact before you come here
 
I didnt mean to be rude or diss your idea m8, its just a while ago you were asking why ppl are leaving your guild etc, now you doing this and i think you going from frying pan into the fire. Sure this could work and will definately make some interesting vids if you can pull it off but it will only take you so far until you are back to square one.

At the end of the day its about having fun and if this will do that for u then sweet, just be prepared for disapointment because i can see alot of things that could possibly go wrong.

dont let me bring you down or anything, thats just my opinion. wat its worth i dunno?!
 
diesel said:
I didnt mean to be rude or diss your idea m8, its just a while ago you were asking why ppl are leaving your guild etc, now you doing this and i think you going from frying pan into the fire. Sure this could work and will definately make some interesting vids if you can pull it off but it will only take you so far until you are back to square one.

At the end of the day its about having fun and if this will do that for u then sweet, just be prepared for disapointment because i can see alot of things that could possibly go wrong.

dont let me bring you down or anything, thats just my opinion. wat its worth i dunno?!
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Thx dude but ill have a go at it its for fun anyways i dont play wow for anything else.

That why ill try odd thing lol ill even try tanking with a shamie later just too see if its possible.
 
Petruz said:
Pls leave this threat dude you get some fact before you come here
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I stated facts.
I told you how the Prince fight works and why I think you'd struggle.
I even posted how it might be possible.
 
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I stated facts.
I told you how the Prince fight works and why I think you'd struggle.
I even posted how it might be possible.
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Go read in the Druids only guild thread how someone did it not possible its been done got the link there for you.
 
Petruz said:
Go read in the Druids only guild thread how someone did it not possible its been done got the link there for you.
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I told you how the Prince fight works and why I think you'd struggle.
I even posted how it might be possible.

I thought I'd highlight the obvious points you missed.
 
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Petruz, why so offensive? Shogun was giving you his opinion (which is based on his knowledge of the game) and you jump down his throat.
 
MaryJane said:
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Petruz, why so offensive? Shogun was giving you his opinion (which is based on his knowledge of the game) and you jump down his throat.
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Soz if i was a bit (offensive) :( I kinda seem to get that way when people shoot down my ideas when i know its not impossible.

Anyone know a good angermanager lol?

I got boxing bag its not working.
Only joking but these guys should not post in threats that they dont like.
 
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should not post in threats that they dont like.
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Posting opinions on a public message board and then discouraging criticism from people with far more experience, makes you willfully ignorant. But, I guess, ignorance is bliss.
And you wonder why your previous guild failed. Perhaps it's because you were unwilling to listen to other people's opinions and value their experience and wisdom.

But hey. You've 'got a life' after all. No-one's discouraging you from having fun with this game the way you want, but raiding is not for the type of person who absolutely refuses any and all advice and adamantly and obstinately does things 'his way'.
 
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kHayne said:
Posting opinions on a public message board and then discouraging criticism from people with far more experience, makes you willfully ignorant. but, I guess, ignorance is bliss.
And you wonder why your previous guild failed. Perhaps it's because you were unwilling to listen to other people's opinions and value their experience and wisdom.

But hey. You've 'got a life' after all. No-one's discouraging you from having fun with this game the way you want, but raiding is not for your type.
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First off all my first guild did not fail it still going strong.Even better
and i am still involved in it helping new GM.All my alt still in it too.

Yeah your rigth raiding ONLY for serouis people like yourself.Well i never raided cause i am not lvl 70 but if its like that ill pass.
 
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