DSTV advice / help

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marine1

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Below is the setup.
Room 1 is downstairs where the LNB cables come out of wall.
Room 1 is where the SD plasma is, no HD TV there.

Room 2 is upstairs, separated by a concrete slab.
Room 2 has the HD TV FHD LED

Now what I want to know is what is needed to make it HD?
I know you need to buy a HD PVR but it obviously has to go downstairs, which is a problem as the HD TV is upstairs.
I guess one would have to run HDMI all the way upstairs, is that even possible?

Do you still need the SD PVR 1 ?
I want to be able to record and watch another if possible or if needed.

Thn
anks

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I would leave the SDPVR downstairs, and put the HDPVR upstairs. You can have Xtraview with those 2 decoders, no extra monthly cost

You need a cable between the decoders, normal coaxial cable
Then you need to get 2 LNB feeds to the HDPVR, you can either get a quad LNB and feed the extra 2 direct to the HDPVR, or get a 2x4 multiswitch and then feed the extra 2 from downstairs where they come out

If you do go the route you suggested of both decoders downstairs with a long HDMI cable or HDMI extender via ethernet, then you also need to consider a remote blaster or TV link cable to control the decoder from upstairs
 
Smurfatefrog said:
I would leave the SDPVR downstairs, and put the HDPVR upstairs. You can have Xtraview with those 2 decoders, no extra monthly cost - What is Extraview exactly?

You need a cable between the decoders, normal coaxial cable
Then you need to get 2 LNB feeds to the HDPVR, you can either get a quad LNB and feed the extra 2 direct to the HDPVR, or get a 2x4 multiswitch and then feed the extra 2 from downstairs where they come out - I cant do that, its a communal dish, so it would have to be some other way, I have run the co-ax already to upstairs TV

If you do go the route you suggested of both decoders downstairs with a long HDMI cable or HDMI extender via ethernet, then you also need to consider a remote blaster or TV link cable to control the decoder from upstairs - already using the remote blaster upstairs, how would the ethernet option work?
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marine1 said:
What is Extraview exactly?
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It allows 2 decoders to be connected together at no extra monthly cost, well its R65 but because you already have a PVR you pay that R65 now anyway. The decoders need a physical cable between them to communicate, for example if the secondary decoder wont work without getting a signal from the primary. In your case the SDPVR has to be the secondary

marine1 said:
I cant do that, its a communal dish, so it would have to be some other way, I have run the co-ax already to upstairs TV
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Then go the 2x4 multiswitch route, the dual LNB goes into, and 4 cables come out, 2 to SDPVR and 2 to HDPVR

marine1 said:
already using the remote blaster upstairs, how would the ethernet option work?
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HDPVR > HDMI > Cat6 > HDMI > TV, see this thread http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/498150-HDMI-over-ethernet
 
xtraview is having 2 decoders on one subscription, technically there is an extra charge (R65) but since your pops (im assuming) Already paying the pvr subscription he wont be paying more ten whats he currently paying

on a communal dish how is he currently working the sd pvr does h have 2 cable from the communal dish or are they using network settings, if network settings you might have t speak to the Body corporate on how to get this to work send quantum theory a PM his a pro at that stuff, if he has 2 cables already just get a multi switch should be fine.


HDMI signal on HDMI cable has a max limit of a few meters, Ethernet doesn't have this limit you get a converter HDMI to Ethernet the run Ethernet cable where you want to and convert Ethernet back into HDMI so you can have HDMI at a tv far away from the decoder that's is expensive though. this is different from remote blaster that's only for remote signals
 
Guys this is making me mad, I basically have the following now:

Downstairs:
1x SD PVR 1
2 x LNB going into the SD PVR 1
1 x RF out going upstairs ( co ax)

Upstairs:
1 x HD PVR
1 x rf cable going into sat 1 feed.

I am getting no signal and mutichoice say it cannot work like that. :confused:
 
It should be as follows:

dual LNB cables into 2x4 satellite multiswitch

You now effectively have 4 LNB cables(it would be better if you had a quad LNB)

2 cables are for your downstairs decoder and 2 cables are for your upstairs decoder

next you need a rf cable from the HD decoder rf out that goes to your downstairs PVR1 decoder rf in (The PVR cant be the main decoder)

The smart card goes in the HD decoder.
 
marine1 said:
Guys is there any real benefit of keeping the SD PVR?
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You can watch/record more different channels.

If you have the hd decoder downstairs you are going to have to pull cat5 for a hdmi extender upstairs to get hd.
if you have the HD decoder upstairs you need 2 LNB feeds upstairs.
 
Beachless said:
You can watch/record more different channels.

If you have the hd decoder downstairs you are going to have to pull cat5 for a hdmi extender upstairs to get hd.
if you have the HD decoder upstairs you need 2 LNB feeds upstairs.
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Thanks for the advice, look its only going to be 1 x tv at a time on anyway.
I think the cat5 is the way to go as its already run from downstairs to upstairs. I will just go to Esquire and buy a converter from cat5 to HDMI, to run another cco ax cable is a bloody mission

On the HD PVR you can record and watch another channel same time right? So basically same as the current old one?
 
The pvr1 I think you could watch 2 and record 1 whereas the HD p2 you can watch 1 and record 1.
 
Why not just go with the switch advice? It's the easiest solution...
 
marine1 said:
Why 3? How would I do that?

I only have two cables coming into my place, from the LNB, from the twin LNB.
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Yes, and those 2 need to go upstairs (use multi-switch to split) + the heartbeat cable = 3
 
Stick to the suggestions as detailed above - to use a 2 x 4 multiswitch for the dual LNB feed from the communal dish - then all you do is LEAVE the SD PVR where it is - downstairs - take 2 x LNB feeds from the multiswitch to the SD PVR.

Take the OTHER 2 x LNB feeds from the multiswitch upstairs to the HD PVR & connect them there - then take the Co-ax feed from the SD-PVR's RF OUT to the HD-PVR's RF IN (your existing RF aerial feed which carries the XtraView heartbeat signal between the two PVR decoders).

Set up the XtraView subscription with Multichoice - BEST BET is to take BOTH PVR's in to MCA Randburg to get them to set up the XtraView for you correctly, and test it BEFORE you go back and plug everything in.

Then you will have the best of all viewing environments - you can watch EITHER of the SD PVR channels on ALL TV's - downstairs AND upstairs - and watch the HD PVR exclusively upstairs.

http://www.dstvaerial.co.za/xtra.asp

What are the benefits of the HD PVR + SD PVR combo?
Can't decide who gets control of the PVR remote control each night? Need more than 80 hours of recording capacity?

The HD PVR + SD PVR XtraView combo delivers a full triple view PVR viewing experience. You have PVR functionality (including pause Live TV, FF, REW, access to the playlist) in 3 separate viewing environments, and interactive services in two.

You can view a different channel (live, from the buffer or playback) on three different TVs, while simultaneously recording three other channels. You can also access both playlists from each environment.

The HD PVR Favourite Channels feature and the HD Channel is available in one environment and you can even set different Parental Control levels for each decoder. Add to this a combined recording capacity of 230 hours and you are guaranteed to get so much more.

More great news - the only additional monthly cost (over and above your standard subscription) is the R60 access fee. In other words, you pay the same monthly subscription costs for a HD PVR + SD PVR combo, as you would for the HD PVR or SD PVR on its own! A Decoder Care Contract (DCC) for each decoder is optional.

The HD PVR can record up to 150 hours of SD content. If you only record HD content, the HD PVR has a recording capacity of 50 hours, ie. a minimum of 130 hours combined recording capacity.
 
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