All those shows are almost completed in the usa. I cant understand why dstv is so backward in this regard. Terminator is almost done- just one episode left. Smallville almost over too. Chuck as well. By the time dstv airs it they'll be out on bluray and dvd. I cant understand why mc is so slack. With so many channels surely they can air the content in a timely fashion and in HD so we wont have to resort to finding other ways to watch these shows.
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NoChoice sucks, they aim to get cheaper shows or wait till the premium shows drop in price and then buy them.
Networks get paid what they are charging. If ABC wants 2 million per month for broadcasting rights, they get 2 mil.
Mnet's own Channels pay for content. eg: they pay per movie, and get discount if they show it more than once. the newer the movie, the more money it costs. that's why Prison break is so behind, because MC pay less because it is old shows.
In currency.
You that is viewing the show, is paying for the show - because ad campaigns cost a lot of money.
Do you know how much it costs to make a single Sunday times Newspaper? Do you think the money you are paying goes towards printing it?
Do you honestly think a full colour You/Huisgenoot magazine can be printed for R15? really now....?
the mags cost more to be printed than for the actual selling price itself! the money comes from the ads in it.
Do you honestly think a full colour You/Huisgenoot magazine can be printed for R15? really now....?
the mags cost more to be printed than for the actual selling price itself! the money comes from the ads in it.
Thing is these shows are shown across a variety of networks in the states often broadcast in the same time slots. Here we've only really got one prime viewing channel - Mnet - and they also have to fill their abundant quota of crud and sport (same thing?). Sure there are a few other second string general viewing channels like Series, Go, and Action but many people dont even remember those channels exist.
I'm done with DSTV Premium at the end of this month anyway. I'll make do with Compact and whatever is on my PVR until things improve.
Since DSTV show stuff late it makes sense to rather wait for it to come out on DVD and then get a copy of the season. For example Terminator 2 the Sarah Connor Chronicles Season 2 has just finished and by the time DSTV show it will most probably available in DVD. Something like Pushplay seems to be a better thing to subscribe to for much cheaper and they will get whatever you want.
Theres also the cheaper options and ways to get all the documentaries and shows for the cost of a basic internet connection. Something I learned here on these forums
Actually Pushplay seems pretty cool - I don't want to buy an entire season of Chuck, but I would like to watch it. The only catch is that they seem to charge an activation fee of R149, even for the R45 a month plan!
What I'd like is something like a normal video rental place, where you pay per dvd instead of per month, but online like netflix. I guess it's not a profitable business model, though.
Irrespective of the actual deal, the 2 million has come from somewhere.
It comes from ads and from subscribers. If you're downloading shows on
torrents, you probably don't own DSTV, hence you're one less person who
watches the ads on DSTV and one less subscriber - hence DSTV has less money to buy shows with. Extrapolate this around the world to the other networks and you'll see that as viewer numbers drop and subscriptions for PayTV channels decrease, there are less funds available to pay for shows - so DEMAND for shows decreases and studios have to sell them for less or stop making others - this means a reduction in both quality and quantity of TV shows and movies.
Which comes from the subscribers and the viewers?
Do you think Coca-Cola will pay 10 Million bucks for an ad slot on Fashion TV?
You who is paying a subscription OR viewing the show on TV to see the ADVERTS. You watching the ADS pays for the show. Now on torrented shows, there are no ads or even if there are ads they are from one particular network - whoever ripped the series first and seeded it first.
No subs - no money towards shows.
No watching of TV (DSTV, NBC, ShowTime etc) - no money from advertising.
Hence people who download shows INSTEAD of having DSTV or watching the show on TV are contributing to worse quality shows. People who would never get DSTV anyway - well those don't count.
So forgive me when I point this out to someone who says "Who needs DSTV?"
what about free TV? yes they won't pay much for an Ad on FTV, but for SABC they will.
Actors, Hollywood, TV Studios and TV Networks make a lot of money - watching an Episode of something that will never air in SA is not going to change anything of anything.
Actors, Hollywood, TV Studios and TV Networks make a lot of money - watching an Episode of something that will never air in SA is not going to change anything of anything.
Sackboy
Executive Member
DSTV sends a code over the air which can both activate and deactivate cards.
You won't find free-ad only sponsored TV with recent shows on it.
The shows you do find also get paid for by ads. The money goes back
to the producers. They have more cash to make more TV shows with.
Only if you wouldn't have paid DSTV subs, watched DSTV ads, bought it online (eg iTunes) or bought the DVD/BD/VHS version thereof eg you're too poor or you have so little interest in the shows that you'd rather have not watched them instead of buying them (if free download was not an available option to you).
However, if you're the type who only leeches and would never have bought (in above ways) then you are not contributing to a decline in TV shows (arguably your seeding of the torrented show is) but you shouldn't laugh at DSTV or it's viewers because they help pay for the shows you enjoy for free.
Hulu shows shows that aired last night with average 4 commercial breaks in them? Does that count?
Kkkurupt
Well-Known Member
Go ahead and cancel Mnet, and bring us direct Fox, Global, Sky, ABC ect. Then we dont have to reschedule.
I cancelled the DSTV Premium rated violent assault on my bank balance 2009-04-01, so I will not be watching those shows on MNet.
Death to [Mo]noChoice's PayTV monopoly status.
Death to [Mo]noChoice's PayTV monopoly status.
The_Pumpkin_King
Jedi Master
cancelled also due to price increase
The_Pumpkin_King
Jedi Master
nope
But pray tell, if you've already downloaded the show from da torrentz - why watch it on Hulu?
My point is that people who watch Hulu and its ads, buy shows on iTunes,
pay their TV subs or watch the TV channels and are ultimately included in ratings or buy DVDs of shows are the people who pay for them. We can all download stuff from RapidShare or P2P but none of those ways contributes anything to the shows. People are not being a smart by bragging about how much you download, it's not rocket science -but they should realise they have no standing to even criticise the shows - less so than people who have contributed towards them.
MidnightWizard
Executive Member
TImes Up
Peter -- the whole conversation is up and down = hot air
PLEASE show us the figures -- genuine ones
Lets see a proper balance sheet.
How much does it cost to produce a show -- How much do ads cost -- What is MultiChoices bottom line profit
Unless and until you can come up with the sort of figures and analysis that an Accountant would be happy with it is just all -- speculation -- and worth nothing
MW
Peter -- the whole conversation is up and down = hot air
PLEASE show us the figures -- genuine ones
Lets see a proper balance sheet.
How much does it cost to produce a show -- How much do ads cost -- What is MultiChoices bottom line profit
Unless and until you can come up with the sort of figures and analysis that an Accountant would be happy with it is just all -- speculation -- and worth nothing
MW