El Cheapo Datsun - Beware

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It may be cheap, but is it worth risking your life in one?

http://www.iol.co.za/motoring/indus...ls-crash-test-dismally-1.1776213#.VFxQSvmUeSo
The Datsun Go recently hit South African streets with a refreshingly affordable price tag of just R89 500, yet it also came under fire for not offering basic safety features like airbags and ABS. Now it appears that airbags might not help much anyway.

In a recent crash test conducted by Global NCAP's new Indian division, the Go's structure collapsed during the 64km/h frontal offset test.

According to Bharat NCAP, the crash test dummy's readings “indicated a high probability of life-threatening injuries.” While the lack of airbags ensured that the driver's head hit the steering wheel and dashboard, even having them on board might not have made much of a difference as the organisation also remarked that “the failure of the body shell makes fitting an airbag redundant.”

ZERO STARS ACROSS THE BOARD

Little surprise then, that the Datsun Go received an adult occupant rating of zero stars. Bharat NCAP also announced the crash test results of the Maruti Suzuki Swift and although it also failed to gain a single star, its structure performed better in the tests. It appears that main problem here was a lack of airbags, causing the dummy's head to hit the steering wheel. The structure did show some signs of collapsing in the frontal offset crash test, however the crash testing authority concluded that “the fitting of airbags would improve occupant protection.”

Suzuki South Africa sources its 1.2-litre Swift models from India and thankfully our cars do have airbags fitted across the range.

IOL mot nov6 Suzuki Swift crash
The Maruti Suzuki Swift, it was concluded, would perform better with airbags. Luckily SA models are fitted with these essential safety items.
Providing that the structure remains relatively stable, these explosive cushions actually do appear to make a big difference. Earlier this year, Global NCAP crash tested a batch of compact hatchbacks, including the Ford Figo and VW Polo, and all of them were slapped with a zero star rating. However, the Polo was later retested with airbags, after they were made standard, and the car suddenly achieved a four-star rating.

IS IT SCAREMONGERING?

However, the Society of Indian Automobile Manufacturers has dismissed the crash test reports as “scaremongering”. Its director general, Vishnu Mathur, said: “Global NCAP can do what they want. We have our own safety road map that we are going to follow and are already following.” Mathur accused Global NCAP of not considering that average speeds are lower in India than in more developed countries, as a result of bad roads and heavy traffic.

Strange then, that these conditions have not prevented India from having one of the worst road death tolls in the world, with around 1.2 million deaths recorded in the last decade, according to Reuters. And if it's ok for cars to be less protective because of India's 'slow' roads what are the implications, then, when these cars are imported to the not-so-slow streets of South Africa? Do we even matter?

THREE PILLARS OF PROTECTION

The moral of the story is that a seatbelt alone is not going to stop you from striking the steering wheel during a frontal crash, although it will most certainly soften the blow of the impact and you really have to be an idiot not to wear one. But to maximise your changes, you need a seatbelt, airbag and a decent structure around you.

And if you're going to Go for the Datsun, it is a rather solid and affordable car, just make sure you never have an accident.
 
I think this was discussed in the dedicated thread as well...

Legally they can't even sell that thing in most civilised countries, I'm surprised SA law allows it. It's the Citi Golf all over again, except it's actually a new design and not a relic from the 70's.

I was going to mention how it's fine for India where you can never drive over 20km/h anyways due to the traffic, terrible roads and rivers of excrement you have to dodge, but I see they already said that in the article
 
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Figo is zero? :( That's without airbag I hope. Wonder what it is with airbag?

I think those scores are mainly about how badly the passenger area deforms in a crash. In a 1,2 or even zero rated car, an airbag doesn't make much of a difference if you get completely crushed by steel. It's like putting on a flotation jacket and jumping off the Empire State building, completely different type of protection.

Example, this POS received a one star rating, so to get a zero, you'd have to basically build a car out of Lego.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_Metro
 
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Lego is quite strong though. Hey that's not a bad idea?!?
 
You must not have seen the price of Lego lately...
 
Yes read this elsewhere but Datsun/Nissan PR needs to work overtime on this. Wonder what "angle" they will be taking.

Pity as many things considered it's not a bad car; relatively-speaking; of course.
 
Yes read this elsewhere but Datsun/Nissan PR needs to work overtime on this. Wonder what "angle" they will be taking.

Pity as many things considered it's not a bad car; relatively-speaking; of course.

Sure, until they have to scrape someone you used to know from the insides because it collided with a small dog.

Terribly unsafe = terrible car.
 
I think those scores are mainly about how badly the passenger area deforms in a crash. In a 1,2 or even zero rated car, an airbag doesn't make much of a difference if you get completely crushed by steel. It's like putting on a flotation jacket and jumping off the Empire State building, completely different type of protection.

Example, this POS received a one star rating, so to get a zero, you'd have to basically build a car out of Lego.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_Metro

Structure stays pretty intact (compared to those Chinese cars especially):

[video=youtube;PLOo5g73284]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLOo5g73284[/video]

It has a stable basic structure. Both driver and front passengers have airbags in SA Figos so it would fare better then, even Global NCAP says so:

http://www.globalncap.org/ford-figo-no-airbags-means-zero-star-safety/
 
Went and looked at the global NCAP site. The i10 also seems to be part of this group.
 
Is engineering a sound structure so expensive?

Not just engineering a sound structure, but producing it in volume. You need larger quantities of better materials, and more advanced production lines to put it all together. As I said in the other thread, it does rather unambiguously show how some manufacturers view their customer base.
 
Not just engineering a sound structure, but producing it in volume. You need larger quantities of better materials, and more advanced production lines to put it all together. As I said in the other thread, it does rather unambiguously show how some manufacturers view their customer base.

As in Datsun are clearly targeting 'once-off' customers, whereas others via for repeat business.
 
Figo is zero? :( That's without airbag I hope. Wonder what it is with airbag?

Unless our Figo is made in India we should be okay. The Indian Ford Figo same as their Polo uses inferior steel, and other cut backs to make it as dirt cheap as possible.
There are Chinese cars with Airbags and ABS etc for the same price as the Datsun Go, but people are still hesitant about them, will go see their ncap ratings.
 
Unless our Figo is made in India we should be okay. The Indian Ford Figo same as their Polo uses inferior steel, and other cut backs to make it as dirt cheap as possible.
There are Chinese cars with Airbags and ABS etc for the same price as the Datsun Go, but people are still hesitant about them, will go see their ncap ratings.

Our Figo is built in India... ;)

So's the new Polo sedan though, but if you follow this article trail you'll learn that VW pulled the Polos without airbags from the market, and those fitted with scored 4 stars. With the addition of ESP - which will likely happen at some point, as the whole facelifted hatchback range now has ESP standard - they'll score a full five.
 
As in Datsun are clearly targeting 'once-off' customers, whereas others via for repeat business.
Well yes, you can only die horrifically in an accident when your car folds up like a wet newspaper so I don't expect any customers to be returning.
 
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