England bag another "KP"

[Kilgore_Trout_Redux]

You can't blame the English administrators for having a better eye for talent than ours or for players to go where they have the opportunity to represent a team at international level.

Cricket South Africa dropped the ball with Trott, KP and now Kieswetter. These guys should have been part of the national set up long before they were chosen to represent England.

 

[Morgoth]

rofl the surenames Kieswetter and Pietersen is as Afrikaans as it comes

in any case, if you add Tony Greig to that list then its 6 that England produced out of foreign genes.

 

[zeb]

Quota system? And the all too famous "boys club" of SA cricket case in point: Nic Pothas has a first class average of 42. Was dominating domestic cricket (at the time), hardly got a look in. Left for England, who's fault is that?

If memory serves he first went to the US to try and get a baseball contract. It didn't work out but I suppose it's an interesting story he can tell around the dinner table.

 

[lilggg]

Boucher was better than pothas that's why. They emerged at the same time.

Kieswetter made his choice good for him. We still have kuhn in the wings and a very exciting propsect in barnes from the dolphins. Hardly anything to cry about.

Don't U think daryn smit is a bit better than barnes?His keeping at least is.

 

[stefan9]

Don't U think daryn smit is a bit better than barnes?His keeping at least is.

Keeping yes but then smit is a better keeper than kuhn as well and the only local keeper than is close to smit is boucher. But cricket has changed , in past era's the keeper was only picked on his keeping ability now he needs to be a keeper/batsman. Just don't think daryn has the batting ability to play international cricket. Barnes is the better batsman by some distance and from I have seen the best upcoming keeper/batsman we have.

 

[Mr Natural]

And he seems to be an explosive batsmen/keeper.

Explosive in the sense that he blows up immediately. He was dropped on his first ball in the last game, and dismissed on his second.

1. Andrew Strauss
2. KP
3. Matt Prior
4. Craig Kieswetter
5. Jonathan Trott
:wtf:

And add to that Morgan (Scot).... there's not so many Englishmen in the English team.

in any case, if you add Tony Greig to that list then its 6 that England produced out of foreign genes.

Strauss was iirc the 4th SA-born Eng captain, after Grieg, Lamb and Pietersen.

 

[Ou grote]

He's just got his 1st odi 100 in his 3rd game.

 

[stefan9]

Explosive in the sense that he blows up immediately. He was dropped on his first ball in the last game, and dismissed on his second.


And add to that Morgan (Scot).... there's not so many Englishmen in the English team.


Strauss was iirc the 4th SA-born Eng captain, after Grieg, Lamb and Pietersen.

Morgan is irish. They did have a scot who played a few games named hamilton a few years back.

 

[Lament]

Heino Kuhn
Batting and fielding averages
Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 4s 6s Ct St
First-class 58 100 8 4035 216 43.85 9 20 180 14


Craig Kieswetter Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 4s 6s Ct St
First-class 47 66 10 2254 153 40.25 3626 4 12 293 39

Nic Pothas Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 4s 6s Ct St
First-class 201 310 59 10604 165 42.24 24 54 561 45

Daryn Smith Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 4s 6s Ct St
First-class 47 65 1450 107* 27.35 2921 1 7


Kieswetters is the best, hands down, then Heino Khun, Smith is no where.....

 

[Lament]

Heino Kuhn
Batting and fielding averages
Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 4s 6s Ct St
First-class 58 100 8 4035 216 43.85 9 20 180 14


Craig Kieswetter Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 4s 6s Ct St
First-class 47 66 10 2254 153 40.25 3626 4 12 293 39

Nic Pothas Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 4s 6s Ct St
First-class 201 310 59 10604 165 42.24 24 54 561 45

Daryn Smith Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 4s 6s Ct St
First-class 47 65 1450 107* 27.35 2921 1 7


Kieswetters is the best, hands down, then Heino Khun, Smith is no where.....

well, the copy and paste method did not work as planned, go and have a look on cricinfo.co.za for the stats

 

[Mr Natural]

Morgan is irish. They did have a scot who played a few games named hamilton a few years back.

Yeah, when I said Scot I meant Irish. Ed Joyce is another former Irish who has played for Eng.

And of course, Kieswetter goes and scores a century this morning.

 

[Bizkit87]

Heino Kuhn
Batting and fielding averages
Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 4s 6s Ct St
First-class 58 100 8 4035 216 43.85 9 20 180 14


Craig Kieswetter Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 4s 6s Ct St
First-class 47 66 10 2254 153 40.25 3626 4 12 293 39

Kieswetters is the best, hands down, then Heino Khun, Smith is no where.....

huh :wtf:

Kuhn 43.85 avg vs Kiewswetter 40.25 avg?

9 100's vs 4 100's
20 50's vs 12 50's ?

am i missing something, unless you pasted the stats wrong?

 

[Stephen]

Heino Kuhn
Batting and fielding averages
Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 4s 6s Ct St
First-class 58 100 8 4035 216 43.85 9 20 180 14


Craig Kieswetter Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 4s 6s Ct St
First-class 47 66 10 2254 153 40.25 3626 4 12 293 39

Nic Pothas Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 4s 6s Ct St
First-class 201 310 59 10604 165 42.24 24 54 561 45

Daryn Smith Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 4s 6s Ct St
First-class 47 65 1450 107* 27.35 2921 1 7


Kieswetters is the best, hands down, then Heino Khun, Smith is no where.....

huh :wtf:

Kuhn 43.85 avg vs Kiewswetter 40.25 avg?

9 100's vs 4 100's
20 50's vs 12 50's ?

am i missing something, unless you pasted the stats wrong?

Any case County Stats should be valued less quite frankly. Its not the strongest competition in the world. It should be devalued even more if Kieswetter played in the 2nd Division

 

[Lament]

huh :wtf:

Kuhn 43.85 avg vs Kiewswetter 40.25 avg?

9 100's vs 4 100's
20 50's vs 12 50's ?

am i missing something, unless you pasted the stats wrong?

yeah, the catches and stumpings, Heino : 180 catches and 14 stumpings, Kieswetter : 293 catches and 39 stumpings, Heino played 58 fistclass matches and Kieswetwetter played 47........get it?
Keiswetter gets my vote for best wicky!!

 

[Lament]

huh :wtf:

Kuhn 43.85 avg vs Kiewswetter 40.25 avg?

9 100's vs 4 100's
20 50's vs 12 50's ?

am i missing something, unless you pasted the stats wrong?

yeah, the catches and stumpings, Heino : 180 catches and 14 stumpings, Kieswetter : 293 catches and 39 stumpings, Heino played 58 fistclass matches and Kieswetwetter played 47........get it?
Keiswetter gets my vote for best wicky!!