Eskom engineer exodus

ForceFate said:
Mandela wasn't some saint. He even said this himself when media was attempting to turn him into some deity.
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Definitely. It was actually the Western media who actually turned him into a saint like figure because they wanted to use him as a model of what a peaceful transition should be like.
 
Tonichlase said:
This is clearly an article written by a white person, who would dramatise this scenario and talk about an "exodus of the skilled"... why is it that the whites are the skilled engineers, artisans and suppliers... surely according to you the blacks are not qualified, if they are then it's cadre deployment. Were not all the skilled white people also cadre deployed by the white apartheid government? This article is really sickening and just shows how white people are just not willing to be equal citizens with the rest of us. They want privileges in order to be "retained". Unfortunately, as Africans we don't have the luxury of mobility to Europe like our fellow white citizens, so in the workplace, we have to put up with whatever is dealt with us, because we can't just "go". Black staff must always hear budget cuts and all kinds of nonsense when working with white people, and now we must cry that they are leaving. Let them go! We will train ourselves if need be
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How's that directed lightning thing coming along? Human trials started yet?
 
ForceFate said:
There are galaxies beyond the observable universe which you and I will never see proof of, yet we understand why. If you have been living in the country for the past 15 or so years, you'd understand the magnitude of corruption at Eskom thus, 6 figure salaries reducing to 5 figures isn't beyond the realms of possibility.

In other words, if one was able to make excessive claims for stuff without proof being required and now the taps have been throttled, one's salary is going to be affected adversely.

But don't take my word for it.
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OK, so anecdotal then.
And salary does not include claims for stuff.
 
I know one engineer at Eskom leaving this month for Netherlends too. I was wondering why he would give up a cushy job... now I understand.

Cutting skilled white employees was needed to comply with South Africa’s strict provisions of the country’s Equity Act.
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Yea . AA/BEE like some posters (surface) have posted in the News thread is not racism at all./s
 
I think you okes that are for BEE are missing the point. The point is people who aren't good enough are getting into positions they not supposed to be because of these policies. They are black because that's what the policy allows. There is no way to sugar coat it. It is what it is.

This how you get school teachers in charge of police and military.

As I said before if standards were kept the same and black people went through the exact same selection criteria and weren't advantaged by law. You wouldnt have these problems.

It does not imply that black people are stupid but stupid people are getting qualified and unfortunately BEE and quota allows those people to get into positions.

And for some strange reason this fact triggers people ... very strange and yes it's a fact whether you like it or not.

it's the same everywhere. Teaching, electricity, medical take your pick.
 
R13... said:
What truth?
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Eskom is extremely top heavy, and have way to many engineers sitting around doing nothing.

They have been leaving for the last 20 years, and they are still leaving. There's no end in sight, one would think it is an endless supply.
 
RiaX said:
I think you okes that are for BEE are missing the point. The point is people who aren't good enough are getting into positions they not supposed to be because of these policies. They are black because that's what the policy allows. There is no way to sugar coat it. It is what it is.

This how you get school teachers in charge of police and military.

As I said before if standards were kept the same and black people went through the exact same selection criteria and weren't advantaged by law. You wouldnt have these problems.

It does not imply that black people are stupid but stupid people are getting qualified and unfortunately BEE and quota allows those people to get into positions.

And for some strange reason this fact triggers people ... very strange and yes it's a fact whether you like it or not.

it's the same everywhere. Teaching, electricity, medical take your pick.
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Sorry to break it to you but people have been getting into positions they are not qualified for long before AA, many unqualified white people in companies strutting about with massive amounts of self importance but nothing to show for it in terms of qualifications.

That's what apartheid was there for, upgrading clueless white people into positions they would not get under normal circumstances, some took advantage of their good fortune and improved themselves to be very good at their jobs, some just sat back and relaxed, enjoying all the perks of the jobs they got merely for being the right colour at the right time.

So there's absolutely no point being missed, just a couple of racists showing us why AA is more important than it has ever been.
 
Tonichlase said:
This is clearly an article written by a white person, who would dramatise this scenario and talk about an "exodus of the skilled"... why is it that the whites are the skilled engineers, artisans and suppliers... surely according to you the blacks are not qualified, if they are then it's cadre deployment. Were not all the skilled white people also cadre deployed by the white apartheid government? This article is really sickening and just shows how white people are just not willing to be equal citizens with the rest of us. They want privileges in order to be "retained". Unfortunately, as Africans we don't have the luxury of mobility to Europe like our fellow white citizens, so in the workplace, we have to put up with whatever is dealt with us, because we can't just "go". Black staff must always hear budget cuts and all kinds of nonsense when working with white people, and now we must cry that they are leaving. Let them go! We will train ourselves if need be
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Another clone account....wow how desperate.
 
rietrot said:
Eskom is extremely top heavy, and have way to many engineers sitting around doing nothing.

They have been leaving for the last 20 years, and they are still leaving. There's no end in sight, one would think it is an endless supply.
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Except that's not the truth that's being referred to presumably by the article.
 
TheChamp said:
Sorry to break it to you but people have been getting into positions they are not qualified for long before AA, many unqualified white people in companies strutting about with massive amounts of self importance but nothing to show for it in terms of qualifications.
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What utter nonsense. Born-free "anecdotes".

Lots of racist like you on this forum...lots.
 
TheChamp said:
Yes, I am fully aware just how much relics from the good old days hate born frees, get lost.
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The thing about born frees is they have as much real world experience to comment on apartheid as I do on World War Two.

Fact not an opinion.
 
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