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Eskom must come clean
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I would like to see figures of what the stupidity of government and eskom have so far cost our economy and (although much harder to tell) how much it is going to cost in the future from the doubts it will no doubt have raised of SA being a viable investment.
Between eskom and telkom alone, I wonder how much in total this government has cost our economy.
Between eskom and telkom alone, I wonder how much in total this government has cost our economy.
I fear if we knew what was going on then we wouldn't WANT to know...
What kind of idiot allowed government to turn them down when they asked to build more capacity???
Leadership requires doing what is right, not what is politically acceptable...
What kind of idiot allowed government to turn them down when they asked to build more capacity???
Leadership requires doing what is right, not what is politically acceptable...
Should be couple of Trillion Rand spread over 13 years...
There are estimates floating around, but all are guesstimates IMO....
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semiautomatix
Honorary Master
Come clean in this country full of dirty politicians? Ha! You have more chance of being hit by a meteorite whilst cashing in your R20million lottery ticket! 
There is no way to know for sure, but its worth considering the best guesses. In the end, our government doesn't seem to lose sleep over it. Their troughs are full.
stoke
Honorary Master
From bolt in the reactor to failing generators.
They "load shed" a block in freaking Edenvale at 20H00 at night.
WTF is that going to do, save them 10KW/h. Pathetic, useless.
They cause major spikes every time they re-enable a "shedded" block and variances in electricity frequency that causes my UPS to trip over itself for 20 flipping minutes, every flipping hour, damaging my unprotected electrical equipment and costing the consumer cold hard cash.
This all started when the latest aluminum smelter was brought on-line last year. Why the frek will they not just fess up that they (Eskom) should not have signed the agreement to provide uninterrupted 24/7 to the smelter in the first place?
Who exactly was bribed to get that deal going that is desperately trying to hide under the cover of rolling darkness?
They "load shed" a block in freaking Edenvale at 20H00 at night.
WTF is that going to do, save them 10KW/h. Pathetic, useless.
They cause major spikes every time they re-enable a "shedded" block and variances in electricity frequency that causes my UPS to trip over itself for 20 flipping minutes, every flipping hour, damaging my unprotected electrical equipment and costing the consumer cold hard cash.
This all started when the latest aluminum smelter was brought on-line last year. Why the frek will they not just fess up that they (Eskom) should not have signed the agreement to provide uninterrupted 24/7 to the smelter in the first place?
Who exactly was bribed to get that deal going that is desperately trying to hide under the cover of rolling darkness?
HDC
Active Member
Well, cold hard cash: I blew two VERY expensive notebook power supplies because of the spike when the power came back on again.
No stock in South Africa so I had to DHL it in - this has cost me a LOT of money not only in replacing the power supplies but also in lost work, buying a damn UPS etc...
No one takes responsibility in South Africa and it seems that no one cares as the new fat cats on the block are over-fed. Actually makes me think back to the book Animal Farm....
No stock in South Africa so I had to DHL it in - this has cost me a LOT of money not only in replacing the power supplies but also in lost work, buying a damn UPS etc...
No one takes responsibility in South Africa and it seems that no one cares as the new fat cats on the block are over-fed. Actually makes me think back to the book Animal Farm....
stoke
Honorary Master
You've got to hold them accountable.
Thing is .. i don't have the time to do that .. where is our watchdog?
REPORTERS .. stop calling it flipping load shedding and start calling it Consumer Rape, and do some flipping proper research dammit!
Thing is .. i don't have the time to do that .. where is our watchdog?
REPORTERS .. stop calling it flipping load shedding and start calling it Consumer Rape, and do some flipping proper research dammit!
The_Unbeliever
Honorary Master
Tough question that one.. ermm, no?
ah so this load shedding is a very likely cause of my PSU giving up the ghost.
truth be told even big businesses never anticipated the stellar growth the South African economy has experienced since 1994. though 5 or so years ago i would imagine there were strong signs of the possible path we were heading down.
truth be told even big businesses never anticipated the stellar growth the South African economy has experienced since 1994. though 5 or so years ago i would imagine there were strong signs of the possible path we were heading down.
Moederloos
Honorary Master
It is not load shedding
It is failing power stations.
The stations are being run above capacity, and then they break.
Sorry for those who have read me say this a lot today - but I want to make my point
I have put most things on UPS now - PC, monitors, ADSL modem, switch etc etc etc - to stop spikes.
Gonna buy one for fridges next. I doubt the compression motors take kindly to being bounced on and off 10 times before power is restored.
As to the cost to the country.
Wife travels through robot-less areas almost daily - fuel bill is almost double - for one person. So R1000 a month * how many people?
Then the loss in Rands buy bying gennies and replacements from abroad. Do not even want to hazard a guess.
Our company has spent almost R40K this past 6 months on backup power and fuel for the gennies - and it is a small office.
Economic growth is going to slow, and then start reversing - as in negative growth. Disagree with me? Bookmark this post and we can see in 12 months.
It is failing power stations.
The stations are being run above capacity, and then they break.
Sorry for those who have read me say this a lot today - but I want to make my point
I have put most things on UPS now - PC, monitors, ADSL modem, switch etc etc etc - to stop spikes.
Gonna buy one for fridges next. I doubt the compression motors take kindly to being bounced on and off 10 times before power is restored.
As to the cost to the country.
Wife travels through robot-less areas almost daily - fuel bill is almost double - for one person. So R1000 a month * how many people?
Then the loss in Rands buy bying gennies and replacements from abroad. Do not even want to hazard a guess.
Our company has spent almost R40K this past 6 months on backup power and fuel for the gennies - and it is a small office.
Economic growth is going to slow, and then start reversing - as in negative growth. Disagree with me? Bookmark this post and we can see in 12 months.
ajax
Executive Member
How much power can I pull from my Telkom line?
Moederloos
Honorary Master
5V I believe
more when it rings.
Get a second phone, plug the tv into phone line 1, and call phone line 1 from phone line 2 - just let it ring.
Moederloos
Honorary Master
But they won't.
I half expect the usual "if people want to whinge, they can leave" line to be trotted out, though.
ajax
Executive Member
5V I believe
more when it rings.
Get a second phone, plug the tv into phone line 1, and call phone line 1 from phone line 2 - just let it ring.
Interesting! Seeing that prepaid lines are dirt cheap now, maybe I should get a couple and hook them up in parallel to up the voltage? Then a transformer to up it to 220V ?
If you dial *1# (I think) the phone calls itself back.