Ethernet vs WiFi Speed Lost

[Charlesjjm]

I think I get this.

The survey team was incorrect in this situation , purposely seeking out clients on dial up with 10/100 routers to skew the figures

Sounds right

You never read the study, did you?

 

[Dolby]

I’m not sure why you tagged me ?

 

[SauRoNZA]

And literally today I run into a user with a 100MBjt limited router not able to handle the 200MBit line speed they just upgraded to.

 

[Dolby]

And literally today I run into a user with a 100MBjt limited router not able to handle the 200MBit line speed they just upgraded to.

What ISP ?
What model ?

As I said I’m very close to this to this industry - so the claims that everyone using 10/100 is fishy. For years now anything through Telkom, MWEB, Web Africa, Supersonic have all been Gbit with WiFi 6

 

[SauRoNZA]

What ISP ?
What model ?

As I said I’m very close to this to this industry - so the claims that everyone using 10/100 is fishy. For years now anything through Telkom, MWEB, Web Africa, Supersonic have all been Gbit with WiFi 6

What you are failing to understand is that someone will literally get a free router in a box and never install it because they don’t have the technical know how to do so or just couldn’t be bothered because what they have works just fine.

Again not everyone is a nerd who cares for or ever needs more than a 100Mbit link.

What’s extra funny is that for “years” they’ve been handing out WiFi6 routers according to you when literally the technology has literally only been around since 2019 and is only hitting the mainstream in the last year or two.

The only ISP really dishing out WiFi6 early was Afrihost and that’s been the last two years at best.

 

[Dolby]

Sorry - Gbit and WiFi 5

So this guy that you helped with?
What ISO and what router?

It’s not a tough question - is it?

So you’re saying people sign up to a service, get a router with auto provisioning - and then don’t know how to install it? And then pay for the service? Most the time technicians install these anyway *shrug*

I guess you’re right that not everyone needs more than 100mbit - but if the ISPs are giving it … how does that work?

How do you see and know plenty of 100mbit routers when they don’t really issue them? That’s ‘extra’ funny …

 

[Dolby]

You never read the study, did you?
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Doesn’t this contradict earlier when you said you KNOW 10/100 routers are being used?

And don’t you think Steve Jobs would be disappointed in you with your ‘it’s enough’ attitude ? It comes across as lazy

 

[SauRoNZA]

Telkom

Looks at all this gigabit and WiFi 6…lol

Telkom Home Page

Telkom Home Page

www.telkom.co.za

Mweb

Mweb Hardware Setup

Mweb Hardware Setup

help.mweb.co.za

There’s one Zyxel with WiFi6, there is all Wifi5 with some gigabit.

I could waste my time and go trawl the rest but not going to.

 

[Dolby]

I corrected myself on WiFi 6 - but you brought up the ports remember?

 

[Dolby]

Telkom

Looks at all this gigabit and WiFi 6…lol

Telkom Home Page

Telkom Home Page

www.telkom.co.za

Mweb

Mweb Hardware Setup

Mweb Hardware Setup

help.mweb.co.za

There’s one Zyxel with WiFi6, there is all Wifi5 with some gigabit.

I could waste my time and go trawl the rest but not going to.

You don’t have to - I deal with both.

Which ISP issued all have the 10/100 ports ? It’s a very simple question

Are you going to try find an outlier small ISP that uses some old Chinese ?

To be clear, most ISP issues routers bought today - and for years - have Gbit ports. That’s really just fact.

 

[Dolby]

are all on ISP issued routers with 100Mbit Ethernet links which likely means those stats are all bullshit.

Remember - this is what you said?

 

[Dolby]

I don’t think so, I know so

And then you were very confident about that when I queried.

So I’m just asking you which ISP ?

 

[Dolby]

Telkom

Looks at all this gigabit and WiFi 6…lol

Telkom Home Page

Telkom Home Page

www.telkom.co.za

Mweb

Mweb Hardware Setup

Mweb Hardware Setup

help.mweb.co.za

There’s one Zyxel with WiFi6, there is all Wifi5 with some gigabit.

I could waste my time and go trawl the rest but not going to.

Just FYI on the MWEB link, those aren’t all current. The WR7010 has been discontinued for many years now and they’ve been doing Zyxels with Gbit

See, it’s a hassle for the ISP to issue a 10/100 - why would they even want to? They’re hardly cheaper and in fact, the often harder to get and more expensive

 

[SauRoNZA]

Again you are entirely missing the point as usual.

I’m not saying ISP’s are all issuing 100Mbit routers in the here and now across the board.

What I’m saying is they were issued years ago and normal people don’t flip ISP’s or routers every other year like us nerds.

They stick to an ISP for a decade or even decades using the same router until it literally dies or can’t do the job any longer because some nerd told them to change it.

Point is the majority of routers will be 100MBit ones out there…and here’s a real shocker the majority of connections will be less than 100Mbit so it won’t matter anyway.

The entire argument of they paid for gigabit and they aren’t using it is nonsense, because most internet links won’t be gigabit and most people don’t use their wireless networks for local networking, just for internet end points.

There are plenty of 100Mbit brand new systems (even mesh ones) being sold today, a few of them on that very Telkom link because the reality is that Gigabit isn’t actually that important to most people.

 

[backstreetboy]

To be clear, most ISP issues routers bought today - and for years - have Gbit ports. That’s really just fact.

Funny then that they gave me a TP link C20 in 2020 still.

 

[SauRoNZA]

Funny then that they gave me a TP link C20 in 2020 still.

I love how it’s suddenly “most” and for years and a fact even with plenty of evidence to the contrary in both the new and historical catalog.

 

[Azbubu]

Another thread where Dolby is pointlessly arguing with people. No way!

 

[Dolby]

Funny then that they gave me a TP link C20 in 2020 still.

Who?

Do you understand there is more than one ISP? Do you understand how percentages work?

If company A , B and C offer Gbit and account for 80,000 users - but company D offers 10/100 and have 20,000 users - then 80% use Gbit rerouters.

You went to company D - so who is your ISP? Cool Ideas ?

 

[Dolby]

I love how it’s suddenly “most” and for years and a fact even with plenty of evidence to the contrary in both the new and historical catalog.

I suggest that maybe you understand a bit more of the ISP & hardware market before you try argue on things you clearly have no idea about.

I mean pretty much everything you’ve said is wrong.

 

[Dolby]

Another thread where Dolby is pointlessly arguing with people. No way!

… but you don’t see pointless arguing the other way ?

I just posted something that irked Sauron because the way the survey was done upset him