Ethernet vs WiFi Speed Lost

[Dolby]

I love how it’s suddenly “most” and for years and a fact even with plenty of evidence to the contrary in both the new and historical catalog.

You can just Google what the largest ISPs in the country are, and what they supply ? And maybe phone and ask when they started with the hardware ? It’s not secret info ?

And then you can work out a percentage?

So take the number of users from Telkom, MWEB, WebAfrica & Afrihost and see what they issue - and take whoever BSB is using with the TP Link.

Let me know if you struggle

 

[Dolby]

You never read the study, did you?
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Read this as well.

89% are using WiFi 4 and 5 . They don’t break down further - but I can guarantee you that the majority are using WiFi 5 … which incidentally means in most cases Gbit.

*There are outliers - but generally 10/100 & WiFi 4 ; as well as Gbit & WiFi 5 go together

*and I’m sure you’ll use them to drive home a point

 

[Speedster]

Surely this is only a problem for internet speeds above WiFi speeds. How many people have internet connections above, say, 250mbps?

 

[SYNERGY]

Come back to the dark side... Android & Windows

Or are we the light side?

 

[SauRoNZA]

You can just Google what the largest ISPs in the country are, and what they supply ? And maybe phone and ask when they started with the hardware ? It’s not secret info ?

And then you can work out a percentage?

So take the number of users from Telkom, MWEB, WebAfrica & Afrihost and see what they issue - and take whoever BSB is using with the TP Link.

Let me know if you struggle

No you can’t just take their total numbers of users and assume they’ve been issued the new router just the same way you can’t assume even if every single one was issued one that they are actually using it.

People install routers and leaves them alone for YEARS. They don’t go rotate routers and ISP’s every other day like you seem to think.

And that’s why your logic and your stats are wrong.

It doesn’t matter what the ISP is offering now, it matters what they issued to the majority of customers over the last 10+ years and that’s not gigabit.

Same way the article is bullshit in conspiring local assumed gigabit speeds and then comparing it to rated internet speed tests. Those two things are not the same.

 

[SauRoNZA]

Surely this is only a problem for internet speeds above WiFi speeds. How many people have internet connections above, say, 250mbps?

EXACTLY.

The entire premise assumes everyone has a gigabit link and gigabit local network speeds and then compares this to their WiFi which is simply a massive assumption and not based in any fact.

 

[SauRoNZA]

Read this as well.

89% are using WiFi 4 and 5 . They don’t break down further - but I can guarantee you that the majority are using WiFi 5 … which incidentally means in most cases Gbit.

*There are outliers - but generally 10/100 & WiFi 4 ; as well as Gbit & WiFi 5 go together

*and I’m sure you’ll use them to drive home a point

There was a time when a great many routers were “Gigabit” but not on their internal backplane and not on their actual ports.

Branded as Gigabit and everything until you got a surprise and then paid real attention.

Then some upgraded the WAN port to gigabit so that the wireless could at least be faster than 100MB…but the other Ethernet ports were still 10/100.

Magical stuff.

 

[Dolby]

There was a time when a great many routers were “Gigabit” but not on their internal backplane and not on their actual ports.

Branded as Gigabit and everything until you got a surprise and then paid real attention.

Then some upgraded the WAN port to gigabit so that the wireless could

So we’ve from incorrect survey process … to one 10/100 ports in the survey … to ISPs using one 10/100 ports … to false advertising?

Which routers advertise Gigabit that aren’t?

 

[Dolby]

No you can’t just take their total numbers of users and assume they’ve been issued the new router just the same way you can’t assume even if every single one was issued one that they are actually using it.

People install routers and leaves them alone for YEARS. They don’t go rotate routers and ISP’s every other day like you seem to think.

And that’s why your logic and your stats are wrong.

It doesn’t matter what the ISP is offering now, it matters what they issued to the majority of customers over the last 10+ years and that’s not gigabit.

Same way the article is bullshit in conspiring local assumed gigabit speeds and then comparing it to rated internet speed tests. Those two things are not the same.

I see - do you not think there are more links registered now compared to even 5 years ago ? If we look at fibre coverage or pricing ?
So you don't feel that although they may have supplied 1,000 x old school routers then, whereas now they're supplying many times more ?

You're in the business - right ?

Why don't you ask a friend fo some auto provisioning stats to see what's on the network at any given time ? Even that old WR7010 supports TR69 - so everything would be available as a single snapshot ? Maybe get MyBB to write an article about this, as they also have the contacts ?

If the speed from many years ago has gone from 25 > 50 > 100+ ... they actually do give new routers .

But - hey - you're a specialist and you don't need me to tell you

 

[Dolby]

@SauRoNZA have you ever asked a question on MyBB ? I've only ever seen you force your (Often incorrect) opinion in every thread ... like you feel no one knows more you ? And you're an expert in every field? I think there's a term for people like you

 

[Dolby]

Surely this is only a problem for internet speeds above WiFi speeds. How many people have internet connections above, say, 250mbps?

• This article wouldn't be an issue if it didn't mention MacBook
• This article wouldn't be an issue if there was no history between him & I on WiFi vs Ethernet

It's become a huge issue - but really shouldn't be :/

But to answer your question, real world WiFi speeds are fairly slow and you could really hit the WiFI limit at 100Mbps or less, depending on the room. Unless of course you have enterprise class wired APs dotted through the house or even a mesh system . Which in the other thread, was assumed to be the norm

 

[SauRoNZA]

I see - do you not think there are more links registered now compared to even 5 years ago ? If we look at fibre coverage or pricing ?
So you don't feel that although they may have supplied 1,000 x old school routers then, whereas now they're supplying many times more ?

You're in the business - right ?

Why don't you ask a friend fo some auto provisioning stats to see what's on the network at any given time ? Even that old WR7010 supports TR69 - so everything would be available as a single snapshot ? Maybe get MyBB to write an article about this, as they also have the contacts ?

If the speed from many years ago has gone from 25 > 50 > 100+ ... they actually do give new routers .

But - hey - you're a specialist and you don't need me to tell you

Your the one who wants to argue…so bring the evidence from your friends or get MyBB to do the work.

The vast majority of connections in SA will be <100 Mbit, guaranteed.

 

[SauRoNZA]

@SauRoNZA have you ever asked a question on MyBB ? I've only ever seen you force your (Often incorrect) opinion in every thread ... like you feel no one knows more you ? And you're an expert in every field? I think there's a term for people like you

The term for people like you is askhole.

Always a false flag question mark on every comment, meanwhile sitting there ready with your own answers.

You’ve never asked a single genuine question on these forums.

 

[Dolby]

The vast majority of connections in SA will be <100 Mbit, guaranteed.

That's the only part I agree with you .

Resorting to an incorrect survey process?
False advertising on hardware ?
Everyone running 10/100 routers anyway ?

It's madness to see the level you'll go to, to prove a point

 

[SauRoNZA]

So we’ve from incorrect survey process … to one 10/100 ports in the survey … to ISPs using one 10/100 ports … to false advertising?

Which routers advertise Gigabit that aren’t?

I don’t have a Time Machine and most of these things have been delisted.

ASUS had an RT-1200* series which did it and TP-Link also had a few.

It was at the damn of 802.11AC where the router itself needed to be gigabit to support the higher wireless speed but they were too cheap to do it for the Ethernet switch.

 

[Speedster]

• This article wouldn't be an issue if it didn't mention MacBook
• This article wouldn't be an issue if there was no history between him & I on WiFi vs Ethernet

It's become a huge issue - but really shouldn't be :/

But to answer your question, real world WiFi speeds are fairly slow and you could really hit the WiFI limit at 100Mbps or less, depending on the room. Unless of course you have enterprise class wired APs dotted through the house or even a mesh system . Which in the other thread, was assumed to be the norm

I have a 40mbps fibre line and where I'm sitting on the bed today (I'm still confined to bed after the accident) is about the worst spot from my cheapy Huawei WiFi router. I've still got a 288mbps WiFi link, which is plenty faster than my internet connection. What am I missing?

 

[Dolby]

You’ve never asked a single genuine question on these forums.

I have plenty because I come here to learn ... you've even replied to a number of them as you were an expert on whatever I asking and everyone else was - well - wrong

Anyway - you haven't answer :

1. What ISP is your friend on ?
2. What router does he have?
3. What are the incorrect badged routers?

 

[SauRoNZA]

That's the only part I agree with you .

Resorting to an incorrect survey process?
False advertising on hardware ?
Everyone running 10/100 routers anyway ?

It's madness to see the level you'll go to, to prove a point

I’m sorry that I live in the real world where I deal with people and their IT infrastructure all the time and see what actual reality is like.

My deepest apologies for existing.

 

[Dolby]

Your the one who wants to argue…so bring the evidence from your friends

Which part are do you not believe ?

That 10 years ago fibre was more expensive ?
That 10 years ago there was less coverage?
That 10 years ago there were less sign ups?
That ISPs issued Gbit routers now ?
That ISPs haev more Gbit on their books than 10/100?

 

[Dolby]

I’m sorry that I live in the real world where I deal with people and their IT infrastructure all the time and see what actual reality is like.

I've seen ... hehe