Hamish McPanji
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Not complete results, but yikes!!
Scotland might turn the results a bit, but not the positions per se
Scotland might turn the results a bit, but not the positions per se
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European Elections Thread 2019
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Media was too busy attacking UKIP that Brexit party was able to campaign with no issues
Vox Populi Vox Dei
High Tory
Brexit Party is basically UKIP but a more professional operation. Parties that were clear on Brexit won (whatever side).
Vox Populi Vox Dei
High Tory
Yes, Brexit Party will get their first taste of Westminster representation in a parliamentary by-election in two weeks:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Peterborough_by-election
Euro election result:
konfab
Honorary Master
Some lulz:
konfab
Honorary Master
You can almost view UKIP as controlled opposition for the Brexit Party in the same way the EFF is controlled opposition for the ANC.
UKIP has all the troublemakers and mischievers who make as much noise as possible in the media. Then the main party looks normal and moderate.
jack_spratt
Expert Member
So is this election a kind of Referendum on Brexit again?
Clearly the British people want a Brexit based on these numbers.
Clearly the British people want a Brexit based on these numbers.
Hamish McPanji
Honorary Master
Incorrect. Both parties with clear message in Brexit won this. So about 37-38% each for hard brexit and remain.
The remaining 20+ odd percent were confused.
Corbyn , after this drubbing has come out with a clearer message than in the last 3 years. A deal on brexit and/or a referendum. No hard brexit
So if you want to be all nitpicky about this, hard Brexit lost. But I would also not agree with that analysis. All that can be taken from this is that the populace is divided. As much can be ascertained from 37% of the voting population
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What he means is no "no deal" Brexit. May's deal was hard Brexit, and it's only rabid no deal leavers who painted it as "soft Brexit". Soft Brexit would mean EFTA+EEA/single market.
Hamish McPanji
Honorary Master
Who? Corbyn?
Hamish McPanji
Honorary Master
The only thing clear here is that EPP / S&D has lost its majority. And so will need one of the other parties
So most likely ALDE , Greens or ECR.
So most likely ALDE , Greens or ECR.
Hamish McPanji
Honorary Master
Turnout by country
Aquila ka Hecate
Executive Member
Brexit Party is just the latest vehicle for fish-faced conman Farage after he shed his UKIP vehicle.
konfab
Honorary Master
Fish-faced conman Farage is the most successful politician the UK has had in the past 10 years.
Yes. But the point is that he wants a "hard" Brexit as much as most of the Conservatives. He just doesn't want to crash out without a proper withdrawal agreement.
Hamish McPanji
Honorary Master
A "hard" brexit is a no deal brexit. So wto rules
A "soft" brexit is a negotiated one. That's how I read it.
He doesn't want to just walk away in October like the Brexit party and a lot of the conservatives do.
Judging by twittards, the remainers won 100% remain vote in a second ref
Hamish McPanji
Honorary Master
The Brexit party has claimed mandate, without the majority. People are getting upset when that's actually mentioned to them.Judging by twittards, the remainers won 100% remain vote in a second ref
It seems like they don't know what the European elections are for, or how to count