Explosion in Ansbach, Germany

falcon786 said:
Aah no easier way to show who you really,are than by quoting material from a known Islamaphobic bigot.
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Big words, got any others?

Guys apparently pointing out that kebob don't know how to contain themselves is being a islamophobic bigot.
 
konfab said:
Are you saying the video is fake?
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No,I haven't even watched it and I'm saying that the fact that you would cite material from a known Islamaphobic bigot speaks volumes about you as an individual.

Also that video is unrelated to the incident in this article so please show me evidence where the person in this incident said those words?
 
falcon786 said:
No,I haven't even watched it and I'm saying that the fact that you would cite material from a known Islamaphobic bigot speaks volumes about you as an individual.

Also that video is unrelated to the incident in this article so please show me evidence where the person in this incident said those words?
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Umm the video wasn't addressed to you, so can you like stop posting, that would be nice thanks.
 
falcon786 said:
I'm saying that if I had to cite content from obvious ISIS or Nazi websites to back me up it would speak volumes about who I am.
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So, what you're saying is because a 'known Islamaphobic bigot' is the source(unknown to me, just watched video in link, same video is also on liveleak, youtube etc), it makes it less credible, but had linker posted same vid link to youtube/liveleak it would be okay? and says 'something' about that person who linked or commented on it. What about them?
 
falcon786 said:
I'm saying that if I had to cite content from obvious ISIS or Nazi websites to back me up it would speak volumes about who I am.
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That's right, close your eyes, block your ears and scream *lalalalalala* doesn't change the fact that the video was a direct response to berrypi asking for a video of kebob doing stupid **** in the name of islam.
 
ellyally said:
So, what you're saying is because a 'known Islamaphobic bigot' is the source(unknown to me, just watched video in link, same video is also on liveleak, youtube etc), it makes it less credible, but had linker posted same vid link to youtube/liveleak it would be okay? and says 'something' about that person who linked or commented on it. What about them?
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Dunno :/ I found it on 4chan while looking for the Syria thread. Apparently I'm a Islamophobic bigot for relinking.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36880758
..A resident of the former Ansbach hotel where the bomber had lived, Alireza Khodadadi, told the Associated Press news agency that he had occasionally drunk coffee with the Syrian, whom he named only as Mohammed, and they had discussed religion.

Mohammed, he said, told him IS was not representative of Islam: "He always said that, 'No, I'm not with them, I don't like them and such stuff.'..
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...explosion-german-town-deliberate-blast-latest
Ansbach bombing: attacker pledged allegiance to Isis, says official – latest news..
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ellyally said:
What are you trying to say?
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ellyally said:
So, what you're saying is because a 'known Islamaphobic bigot' is the source(unknown to me, just watched video in link, same video is also on liveleak, youtube etc), it makes it less credible, but had linker posted same vid link to youtube/liveleak it would be okay? and says 'something' about that person who linked or commented on it. What about them?
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No,I didn't once say anything about the video or it's credibility.Go read what I said again.
 
falcon786 said:
No,I didn't once say anything about the video or it's credibility.Go read what I said again.
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You have said in reply to me

'Aah no easier way to show who you really,are than by quoting material from a known Islamaphobic bigot'

'cite material from a known Islamaphobic bigot speaks volumes about you as an individual'

So, what is it saying about the poster and me?
 
falcon786 said:
I'm saying that if I had to cite content from obvious ISIS or Nazi websites to back me up it would speak volumes about who I am.
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I could cite a lot of things from Quran that are just as hateful as the stuff on an ISIS website. Does that speak volumes about you?

It is not as if it was an opinion piece, this is a video of someone being ridiculously insensitive towards the victims of terrorism.
 
falcon786 said:
No,I didn't once say anything about the video or it's credibility.Go read what I said again.
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You said:
Aah no easier way to show who you really,are than by quoting material from a known Islamaphobic bigot.
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Bigotry suggests that the material is biased, which means that it wouldn't be credible.
 
konfab said:
I could cite a lot of things from Quran that are just as hateful as the stuff on an ISIS website. Does that speak volumes about you?

It is not as if it was an opinion piece, this is a video of someone being ridiculously insensitive towards the victims of terrorism.
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Indeed, I'm trying to find out what it says about us all... I can quote **** off eff website, it doesn't make me an eff supporter, or quote **** that mugabe has said, doesn't mean I agree with him. What has source site got to do with the person quoting it and what does it say about them?
 
ellyally said:
Indeed, I'm trying to find out what it says about us all... I can quote **** off eff website, it doesn't make me an eff supporter, or quote **** that mugabe has said, doesn't mean I agree with him. What has source site got to do with the person quoting it?
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It does depend on the source material.


If it is an editorial, and I say (X is completely correct about Y), then it would indicate that I agree or disagree with the topic.

In this case, in an argument about how mainstream "moderate" Muslims commit the "No true Scottsman" fallacy every time there is a terrorist attack, I asked a question about an individual in a video being a POS towards mourners would count as exclusionary grounds for non-Muslimship. The video is more of evidence than opinion.
 
skimread said:
Me and you have already discussed this the weekend. Religion is attractive to hypocrites just like child abusers take careers with access to children,music festivals attract migrants who go there to grope young women, public swimming pools attract migrants because they can watch uncovered women.
Just look how thousands of women were sexually assaulted during Cologne New Year celebrations.

If you are not allowed something, then you want it. That's is why worldwide teenagers drink and smoke despite it being against the law.

Don't you think turning him away was racist profiling? Being serious here. Many refugees who legitimately wanted to enter to watch scantily clad German women probably weren't probably given access. I think the previous sex attacks at music concerts probably play a part in this.
It shows that Germans are starting to exclude refugees from mass ethnic German gatherings by refusing them entry. They know Muslims can't complain to authorities because these festivals are haram.
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Do you think he was anticipating them turning him away when he arrived there with a bomb in his party pack?
 
Bavarian bomber pledged allegiance to Islamic State

The Syrian who blew himself up in southern Germany, wounding 15 people, had pledged allegiance to Islamic State on a video found on his mobile phone, the Bavarian Interior Minister said on Monday.

On searching the bomber's room, Nuremberg police found diesel, hydrochloric acid, alcohol, batteries, paint thinner and pebbles - the same materials used in the bomb - and computer images and film clips linked to the militant group, they said.

"A provisional translation by an interpreter shows that he expressly announces, in the name of Allah, and testifying his allegiance to [Islamic State leader] Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi ... an act of revenge against the Germans because they're getting in the way of Islam," Bavarian Interior Minister Joachim Herrmann told a news conference.

"I think that after this video there's no doubt that the attack was a terrorist attack with an Islamist background."
Islamic State claimed responsibility for the bombing, according to Amaq, a news agency that supports Islamic State.
"There was also a laptop that showed pictures and film sequences that glorify violence and are unequivocally linked to Islamic State," he told a news conference.

The attack on Sunday, outside a music festival in Ansbach, a town of 40,000 people southwest of Nuremberg that has a US Army base, was the fourth act of violence by men of Middle Eastern or Asian origin against German civilians in a week.

Fertinger added that police had arrested a suspect who knew the bomber. They were trying to find out if the attacker had help making the bomb and whether it exploded prematurely, which could suggest he wanted to kill as many people as possible.

The incident, after three other attacks since 18 July that left 10 people dead and dozens injured, will fuel growing public unease about Chancellor Angela Merkel's open-door refugee policy. More than a million migrants entered Germany over the past year, many fleeing war in Afghanistan, Syria and Iraq.

Germany's federal and state security authorities have more than 400 leads on fighters or members of Islamist organizations among refugees in the country, the BKA federal police said.
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http://ewn.co.za/2016/07/25/Bavarian-bomber-pledged-allegiance-to-Islamic-State
 
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