F1 2014 thread

[Polish]

Ok, the engines have started, the guys are out for day 3 of the test.

Hope we see some roaring action.

 

[Polish]

Judging from stability and speed so far, looks like Ferrari will be a threat so far.

I think Luca gave Domeciali a stern ultimatum here.

 

[thestaggy]

I've only just become aware of this now, but the new numbering system is terrible. I'd rather the teams went back to the pre-1996 numbering system where they select their own numbers that they keep instead of the drivers choosing personal numbers.

Ferrari, 27 & 28
Williams, 5 & 6
McLaren, 7 & 8
Lotus, 11 & 12, etc.

 

[HapticSimian]

I've only just become aware of this now, but the new numbering system is terrible. I'd rather the teams went back to the pre-1195 numbering system where they select their own numbers that they keep instead of the drivers choosing personal numbers.

Ferrari, 27 & 28
Williams, 5 & 6
McLaren, 7 & 8
Lotus, 11 & 12, etc.

This is a return to the previous system, where drivers choose their own numbers for the remainder of their F1 careers. Williams wasn't 5, Mansell was; Ferrari wasn't 27, Gilles Villeneuve was.

Also, ****... didn't realise the FIA dated back to the Middle Ages.

 

[HapticSimian]

McLaren's sombre start to the year continues. First Jenson's dad, now this: Two McLaren staff members have been killed after a crash near the Formula One team's headquarters in Woking.

 

[thestaggy]

This is a return to the previous system, where drivers choose their own numbers for the remainder of their F1 careers. Williams wasn't 5, Mansell was; Ferrari wasn't 27, Gilles Villeneuve was.

Also, ****... didn't realise the FIA dated back to the Middle Ages.

That is incorrect, sir. Up until the early 70s drivers mostly selected numbers, but by the mid 70s it was a team affair.

Prior to Villeneuve and 1981, Ferrari had frequently used 11 & 12 when not 1 & 2. Prior to Ferrari adopting 27 & 28 in 1981 Williams had used 27 since 1977 and 27 & 28 since 1978. In fact, Alan Jones was the first case of an F1 driver to use the number 27 for a sustained period of time. It was pure coincidence that it was Gilles' favourite number. Ferrari took 27 & 28 because Williams took 1 & 2 from them and as the numbers between 3 & 26 had already been attached to other teams, Ferrari took 27 & 28, Williams' old numbers.

Also, Williams first used 5 & 6 in 1982, four years before Mansell. 5 & 6 was a number more famously attached to Brabham for many seasons. Brabham took Williams 1 & 2 in 1982 and as Ferrari now favoured 27 & 28 Williams took Brabham's vacated 5 & 6.

Tyrell used 3 & 4 from 1974 to 1995, regardless of drivers. Ligier used 26 for their entire history, adding 25 in 1979. McLaren used 7 & 8 for a good part of their history. Lotus were often 5 & 6 or 11 & 12.

It is just that 27 & 5 became synonymous with iconic drivers because they achieved great results when they had them, but make no mistake, teams were selecting numbers way before that.

 

[HapticSimian]

That is incorrect, sir. Up until the early 70s drivers mostly selected numbers, but by the mid 70s it was a team affair.

Prior to Villeneuve and 1981, Ferrari had frequently used 11 & 12 when not 1 & 2. Prior to Ferrari adopting 27 & 28 in 1981 Williams had used 27 since 1977 and 27 & 28 since 1978. In fact, Alan Jones was the first case of an F1 driver to use the number 27 for a sustained period of time. It was pure coincidence that it was Gilles' favourite number. Ferrari took 27 & 28 because Williams took 1 & 2 from them and as the numbers between 3 & 26 had already been attached to other teams, Ferrari took 27 & 28, Williams' old numbers.

Also, Williams first used 5 & 6 in 1982, four years before Mansell. 5 & 6 was a number more famously attached to Brabham for many seasons. Brabham took Williams 1 & 2 in 1982 and as Ferrari now favoured 27 & 28 Williams took Brabham's vacated 5 & 6.

Tyrell used 3 & 4 from 1974 to 1995, regardless of drivers. McLaren used 7 & 8 for a good part of their history. Lotus were often 5 & 6 or 11 & 12.

It is just that 27 & 5 became synonymous with iconic drivers because they achieved great results when they had them, but make no mistake, teams were selecting numbers way before that.

Fair enough; you've clearly delved more deeply into this than I have. I've not had reason to, as I'm quite happy for the drivers - rather than teams - to choose their numbers.

 

[Polish]

McLaren's sombre start to the year continues. First Jenson's dad, now this: Two McLaren staff members have been killed after a crash near the Formula One team's headquarters in Woking.

Eish......RIP

 

[Polish]

Another smoking Red Bull on the track, Adrian, what's the story here ?

 

[Polish]

Some lap time updates from today.

P Driver Team Time
1 Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m25.030s
2 Hamilton Mercedes 1m25.973s +0.943
3 Alonso Ferrari 1m26.017s +0.987
4 Massa Williams-Mercedes 1m27.286s +2.256
5 Sutil Sauber-Ferrari 1m30.161s +5.131
6 Vergne Toro Rosso-Renault 1m45.525s +20.495

Source http://live.autosport.com/commentary.php/id/693

Better than yesterday. Still 3s off the pace.

 

[Willie Trombone]

Another smoking Red Bull on the track, Adrian, what's the story here ?

Renault

 

[Fox1]

McLaren seem to be really on top of things for the time being.

It was sad to see Newey complain about the technical changes to F1 when he himself built a fast car based on loop holes in the rule book.

 

[Polish]

Michael Schumacher begins waking up process after skiing accident

Michael Schumacher's doctors have begun to reduce the seven-time Formula 1 world champion's sedation to begin what they describe as "the waking up process".

His management issued a statement on Thursday announcing that steps towards him waking him from the coma had begun, but that the process could be long.

Source http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112355

 

[Polish]

Hamilton's preparation for 2014

"It has probably been the shortest winter I have ever had out of the car. I spent Christmas and New Year training in the mountains and I even put a turbo on my snowmobile, so that I could get used to the feel of a vehicle delivering power in that way, which was pretty awesome."

Source http://live.autosport.com/commentary.php/id/693

How is that for preparing yourself

 

[Polish]

Lewis first one onto the 1m23's

1m23.952s

Nooooice, Mercs definitely thumbs up.

 

[Willie Trombone]

Lewis first one onto the 1m23's

1m23.952s

Nooooice, Mercs definitely thumbs up.

Wow... someone dethroned Button finally! I know this is nothing to go by, but the Macca is looking consistent. It's all about who can keep squeezing more from the car at the end of the day.

 

[Willie Trombone]

And as I say that Magnussen goes fastest....

 

[Willie Trombone]

Rivals want to copy McLaren's rear suspension

McLaren's Formula 1 rivals are set to copy its innovative rear suspension design if the FIA confirms that it is legal.

One of the main technical talking points of the first pre-season test at Jerez has been McLaren's suspension 'blockers', which appeared on its new MP4-29 in Spain.

 

[Polish]

Rivals want to copy McLaren's rear suspension

Too bad it cant be hidden and is for all to see. But I do believe that its not an overnight copy due to the number of other and already developed components it effects.

 

[Polish]

And as I say that Magnussen goes fastest....

Nice entrance for a rookie, albeit only at test status.

Looking forward to day 4 today.