F1 2014 thread

Vettel drives a Ferrari:

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I think it's BBC. Whichever uses Coulthard for one.

I think we're going to see the first proper racing incident between Hamilton and Rosberg this weekend.
Personally, if they make it through the first 5 laps I'd back Hamilton on this track.

Aside from the Mercs, I back Alonso for third and Ricciardo to follow ahead of Vettel... or Alonso sandwiched between the two.
 
Supersport gives us only the race part of the BBC coverage.

I'm really happy vettel could shut up all the critics. Ted Kravitz revealed that all of took was a bit more front wing and a good lap. The Red Bull chassis is still a masterpiece, if you look at sector times Vettel beat Hamilton on the second sector and came close in the first but lost it in the last due to the straight.
 
S1lv3r H4wK said:
Supersport gives us only the race part of the BBC coverage.

I'm really happy vettel could shut up all the critics. Ted Kravitz revealed that all of took was a bit more front wing and a good lap. The Red Bull chassis is still a masterpiece, if you look at sector times Vettel beat Hamilton on the second sector and came close in the first but lost it in the last due to the straight.
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Yup. that Red Bull has a good chassis. It always amazes me how people think Vettel won 4 times "because of the car". Sure its true but it takes skill to win 4 championships to win 4 times in a row.
 
iaywtimnbe said:
I think it's BBC. Whichever uses Coulthard for one.

I think we're going to see the first proper racing incident between Hamilton and Rosberg this weekend.
Personally, if they make it through the first 5 laps I'd back Hamilton on this track.

Aside from the Mercs, I back Alonso for third and Ricciardo to follow ahead of Vettel... or Alonso sandwiched between the two.
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Thanks. Normally I would back Lewis, but Rosberg is no slouch. That and the fact that Nico will have track position and therefore an advantage when it come to strategy call. The only advantage Lewis has is that, unlike MOnaco, that straight will provide good overtaking opportunity.
 
ngwe23 said:
Thanks. Normally I would back Lewis, but Rosberg is no slouch. That and the fact that Nico will have track position and therefore an advantage when it come to strategy call. The only advantage Lewis has is that, unlike MOnaco, that straight will provide good overtaking opportunity.
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I'm still silently waiting for one of them to have reliability issues then it will become more of a fight!
 
ngwe23 said:
Yup. that Red Bull has a good chassis. It always amazes me how people think Vettel won 4 times "because of the car". Sure its true but it takes skill to win 4 championships to win 4 times in a row.
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Naah, I think people, myself included, are suggesting that Vettel could only hope to have managed second or third at best in a competitors car over the last 3 years. Nobody's denying it takes skill, mostly we're just denying that Vettel has that much more than the rest of the guys at the top. You yourself just said the redbull chassis is hooked up - that was the secret to their success last year. The secret to Merc's success this year is their superior engine... probably coupled with advance knowledge of it's intricate workings before their competitors could get their hands on that info. It always takes skill to win a championship, and one of the best ways to measure that is to compare a driver to their partner in the same hardware.
 
ngwe23 said:
Thanks. Normally I would back Lewis, but Rosberg is no slouch. That and the fact that Nico will have track position and therefore an advantage when it come to strategy call. The only advantage Lewis has is that, unlike MOnaco, that straight will provide good overtaking opportunity.
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I'm going by a few things - Lewis' superior launch so far this year, and the fact that he was pipping Rosberg throughout practice and quali 1/2... my feeling is that over race distance, he may be better on this track. That said, whoever gets out front will have an advantage - the tyres almost always suffer much less in clear air. All that the long straight will do is give the person behind an advantage for that section of the track - we could see them swapping places if they have similar strategy.

S1lv3r H4wK said:
I'm still silently waiting for one of them to have reliability issues then it will become more of a fight!
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Rosberg has an entire race in his pocket on that count if you're referring to the championship.
 
Yeah we've been through this. If you've got a good car you win a championship. What we're suggesting is that in Martin Brundle's words "only a fool would write off Vettel"
 
iaywtimnbe said:
I'm going by a few things - Lewis' superior launch so far this year, and the fact that he was pipping Rosberg throughout practice and quali 1/2... my feeling is that over race distance, he may be better on this track. That said, whoever gets out front will have an advantage - the tyres almost always suffer much less in clear air. All that the long straight will do is give the person behind an advantage for that section of the track - we could see them swapping places if they have similar strategy.
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Lewis is definitely fast on this track. But my point is that it will not be easy for Lewis to pass Rosberg for 2 reasons. 1-Track position is king. Just look and Spain and Bahrain. The faster driver did not win. 2-The driver with track position get the benefit of the optimum strategy. Lewis might have to do an extra lap on old tires ,therefore loosing time. He cannot use the "undercut" for example to pass Nico at the pits. See Monaco

I hope I am wrong.
 
iaywtimnbe said:
Naah, I think people, myself included, are suggesting that Vettel could only hope to have managed second or third at best in a competitors car over the last 3 years. Nobody's denying it takes skill, mostly we're just denying that Vettel has that much more than the rest of the guys at the top. You yourself just said the redbull chassis is hooked up - that was the secret to their success last year. The secret to Merc's success this year is their superior engine... probably coupled with advance knowledge of it's intricate workings before their competitors could get their hands on that info. It always takes skill to win a championship, and one of the best ways to measure that is to compare a driver to their partner in the same hardware.
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I agree with most of what you said except the part in bold. IMO a lot of people were dismissing of Vettel and his skill. They reduced his achievement to nothing else but the car.
 
From my point of view it would be interesting to see if vettel can catch the Merc infront of him like ricciardo did in Monaco! If he can pull off a 2nd everyone would be silenced!
 
S1lv3r H4wK said:
From my point of view it would be interesting to see if vettel can catch the Merc infront of him like ricciardo did in Monaco! If he can pull off a 2nd everyone would be silenced!
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Catch one of the Mercs? not a chance. I will tell you why. 1- Monaco flattered RB because of the nature of the track, hence the gap was not big. 2- Lewis lost loads of time because he had something in his eye and that is why RB caught up. Granted RB was better at looking after its tired but the Mercs were miles ahead.
 
ngwe23 said:
Catch one of the Mercs? not a chance. I will tell you why. 1- Monaco flattered RB because of the nature of the track, hence the gap was not big. 2- Lewis lost loads of time because he had something in his eye and that is why RB caught up. Granted RB was better at looking after its tired but the Mercs were miles ahead.
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Lets see how it goes! Vettel already stated he's gonna be gunning for the closest Merc.

Where and how are you guys going to be watching? I'm at home gonna watch on dstv.
 
S1lv3r H4wK said:
Lets see how it goes! Vettel already stated he's gonna be gunning for the closest Merc.

Where and how are you guys going to be watching? I'm at home gonna watch on dstv.
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Am streaming sky. I prefer their coverage. I was contemplating reactivating my DSTV but its not worth it for BBC.
 
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