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Which team will take constructors in 2023?

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RB could also pull up Yuki/DR to the main team next year if Checo does get replaced which makes way for Liam Lawson who is apparently the next big thing in racing.
 
dotdan said:
RB could also pull up Yuki/DR to the main team next year if Checo does get replaced which makes way for Liam Lawson who is apparently the next big thing in racing.
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Liam IS pretty good - in F2 he was fast, in DTM(?) he was fast as well.
 
Agent_Smith said:
Sources reporting that apparently the time set by Ricciardo in yesterday's Pirelli tyre test would have been good enough for the Silverstone front row. Not bad for someone who is getting his first taste of 2023 machinery.
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I saw that too, but then I saw another that said he was 0.7s off Max's time.

Tough to judge really - different tyres and conditions so it's fairly meaningless I reckon.
 
UrBaN963 said:
I saw that too, but then I saw another that said he was 0.7s off Max's time.

Tough to judge really - different tyres and conditions so it's fairly meaningless I reckon.
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Yeah, very much so. I think I'm more alluding to the fact that someone who hasn't driven this year's car, can straight away be 'on it' (relatively speaking). He wasn't floundering around. Perhaps he could be good for AT in the long run. Much like Schumi did for Mercedes during his comeback. He didn't win anything, but he was instrumental in setting them on the path to their subsequent domination. Perhaps Ricciardo will fulfill a similar role with AT, namely give the engineers some direction for the future.
 
RBR being RBR again and replacing De Vries...although his finish with Williams was a bit of a flash-in-the-pan situation.
Tsunoda is next to go. He's not doing much either and with Honda now siding with AMR in the future (and with RBR buying them out) there's no need for any form of commitment to Tsunoda to keep the relationship going.
 
Agent_Smith said:
Yeah, very much so. I think I'm more alluding to the fact that someone who hasn't driven this year's car, can straight away be 'on it' (relatively speaking). He wasn't floundering around. Perhaps he could be good for AT in the long run. Much like Schumi did for Mercedes during his comeback. He didn't win anything, but he was instrumental in setting them on the path to their subsequent domination. Perhaps Ricciardo will fulfill a similar role with AT, namely give the engineers some direction for the future.
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Yea let's hope. I just hope he doesn't come with the same kak he gave at McLaren about the cat not suiting his style or whatever.
 
Agent_Smith said:
Yeah, very much so. I think I'm more alluding to the fact that someone who hasn't driven this year's car, can straight away be 'on it' (relatively speaking). He wasn't floundering around. Perhaps he could be good for AT in the long run. Much like Schumi did for Mercedes during his comeback. He didn't win anything, but he was instrumental in setting them on the path to their subsequent domination. Perhaps Ricciardo will fulfill a similar role with AT, namely give the engineers some direction for the future.
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Because there was no pressure on him. He's the Proteas of F1...
 
Agent_Smith said:
Yeah, very much so. I think I'm more alluding to the fact that someone who hasn't driven this year's car, can straight away be 'on it' (relatively speaking). He wasn't floundering around. Perhaps he could be good for AT in the long run. Much like Schumi did for Mercedes during his comeback. He didn't win anything, but he was instrumental in setting them on the path to their subsequent domination. Perhaps Ricciardo will fulfill a similar role with AT, namely give the engineers some direction for the future.
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Yeah that team is hopefully going to do a 180 next year. Dropping name, new Team principal, moving closer to RB hq etc.
 
Harold_Crick said:
And as I elaborated in another post, you people are way, way, WAY over-exaggerating the ''move aside'' stuff. Michael rinsed his teammates and over the course of his career you could count on one hand the amount of times one of his teammates had to give him a position. Only one race win was ever handed to Michael and that was the infamous 2002 Austrian GP.
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Rosberg rinsed Michael 3 years in a row.
Hamilton rinsed Rosberg almost every year.
 
FlashSA said:
Am I right or wrong here: Yuki's shortcomings have been glossed over because of his nationality and "rewarding Honda" by having a Japanese driver in a Honda engined car. That's how I have seen it. Now with Honda's relationship with RB coming to an end at the end of 2025, if DR does indeed run rings around Yuki, it could spell the beginning of the end for him too.

(And before I am corrected on the Honda involvement thing, Honda still provides assistance to Red Bull with the current engine freeze)
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Honda supply the engines too. This technical support thing is a bit of a joke lol. They manufacture, supply, provide tech assistance, Alles.
 
lkpat said:
Rosberg rinsed Michael 3 years in a row.
Hamilton rinsed Rosberg almost every year.
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Rosberg beat 41-year-old Michael Schumacher that hadn't driven competitively in 4-years and who was carrying a legacy neck injury from a motorcycle accident.
 
Harold_Crick said:
Rosberg beat 41-year-old Michael Schumacher that hadn't driven competitively in 4-years and who was carrying a legacy neck injury from a motorcycle accident.
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And I use that same logic to clarify that it wasn't a level playing field between MS and his second. It wasn't coincidence that he was faster most of the time, it also wasn't down to pure skill, he just raced people who weren't really WC material or received the best of the upgrades because it makes sense doing that with the driver more likely to succeed.

I wouldn't say he rinsed them, much like I'd say the same thing about Max. The car is built around him.
 
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