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Agent_Smith said:
Crazy that they run Monaco levels of downforce in Mexico, yet still hit top speeds well in excess of 350kph. Just goes to show what an effect the rarified air has.
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Makes me wonder if Kyalami setup would be similar, but Mexico City is 500m higher though
 
Naks said:
My money's on Leclerc for another win!


Ferrari with some pretty agressive cooling:
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While McLaren has brought a new floor
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Item #3 was done without Adrian's input
 
This is setting up a McLaren-Ferrari battle up front, Mercedes just behind. Looking like a great opportunity for teams like Haas and Williams to get good points (not Albon though lol). Perez will have a lot of support here so he may do a bit better here (or not).

Stage is set for Colapinto & Lawson to do something special (and for someone to bin it)

This race will be a good one.
 
“No relevant new element, petition rejected.” The new element McLaren submitted essentially was the decision document itself.

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quovadis said:
“No relevant new element, petition rejected.” The new element McLaren submitted essentially was the decision document itself.

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And these things get decided with no input from the teams (the original decision)?

TLDR irrespective of whether the stewards original decision was flawed or not, you can’t appeal without new evidence and that evidence can’t include the stewards decision as that’s not new to the stewards.
 
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Willie Trombone said:
And these things get decided with no input from the teams (the original decision)?

TLDR irrespective of whether the stewards original decision was flawed or not, you can’t appeal without new evidence and that evidence can’t include the stewards decision as that’s not new to the stewards.
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It’s just being cheeky. The evidence is that their decision and how they came to it wasn’t available until after the hearing. Once again though there is almost zero chance of introducing anything new if the stewards truly don’t want it to be considered new.
 
The lack of knowledge on this thread is just amazing.
Any top motor racer will know exactly what the rules state and will exploit them to the limits. If you don't you not a champion.

The rules state that you are not allowed to overtake outside the track limits. Easy as that. If anyone has a problem with how top drivers apply that rule, change the rules. The best driver will use what he can under the current rules.

The wannabees will cry and object race after race after race. And their fans will whine week after week after week.
 
Jean Claude Vaaldamme said:
The lack of knowledge on this thread is just amazing.
Any top motor racer will know exactly what the rules state and will exploit them to the limits. If you don't you not a champion.

The rules state that you are not allowed to overtake outside the track limits. Easy as that. If anyone has a problem with how top drivers apply that rule, change the rules. The best driver will use what he can under the current rules.

The wannabees will cry and object race after race after race. And their fans will whine week after week after week.
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What do the rules say about the defending driver ALSO leaving the track to prevent the attacking driver from passing? Surely het should also get a penalty for gaining an advantage?

Sorry im not as clever as you, and might come across as a whiner
 
Jean Claude Vaaldamme said:
The lack of knowledge on this thread is just amazing.
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We are not race drivers, we are just fans. We don't study the rule book or anything, we just watch the race weekend.

Jean Claude Vaaldamme said:
Any top motor racer will know exactly what the rules state and will exploit them to the limits. If you don't you not a champion.
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The drivers do understand the rules, but each team actually has someone on staff to study the rules of the formula to look for loopholes and to make sure the team isn't breaking the rules in some way.

Jean Claude Vaaldamme said:
The rules state that you are not allowed to overtake outside the track limits. Easy as that. If anyone has a problem with how top drivers apply that rule, change the rules. The best driver will use what he can under the current rules.
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The rules for overtaking are complicated, probably more complicated than we all realise.

Jean Claude Vaaldamme said:
The wannabees will cry and object race after race after race. And their fans will whine week after week after week.
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This is the pinnacle of motor racing, everyone has a favourite team or driver and they don't want to see them treated unfairly. Go back a few decades and you will see the same thing.... I'm not sure what you were expecting.
 
Enzo Matrix said:
What do the rules say about the defending driver ALSO leaving the track to prevent the attacking driver from passing? Surely het should also get a penalty for gaining an advantage?

Sorry im not as clever as you, and might come across as a whiner
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UHM let me explain to you again.
The rules say you may not overtake out of track limits. Do you get that?
Max was leading in the apex. What happens after that have no impact. The rules say you not allowed to overtake when of track limits. If you or anyone else have a problem of how it happens, then the rules must change. Then Max and the other top drivers will push the limits of the new rules and you bunch will get something new to complain about when your British drivers cant take the heat.

Edit: Oh and he did not gain an advantage. He was in the lead at the apex and was overtaken, so no advantage gained.
 
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