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UrBaN963 said:
You're saying he lifted, braked, geared down, accelerated and braked again and lost 0.13s?

Come on man.
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No I'm saying that 100m section where he lifted, that was the time difference to traverse that 100m. I don't see the reaction of an F1 driver being affected by that.
 
quovadis said:
No I'm saying that 100m section where he lifted, that was the time difference to traverse that 100m. I don't see the reaction of an F1 driver being affected by that.
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So he was a full 100m+ behind where somebody behind him would've expected him to be coming around the corner... That's quite a difference. At the speeds this cars going, what appears like nothing in respect of 'comparitive time' can be quite some distance on the tarmac
 
MuterOfWorlds said:
So he was a full 100m+ behind where somebody behind him would've expected him to be coming around the corner... That's quite a difference. At the speeds this cars going, what appears like nothing in respect of 'comparitive time' can be quite some distance on the tarmac
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No, it's the time difference he would've taken to move that 100m distance with/without lifting off. Watch the onboard in slomo, Russell did gain a bit but hardly to the extent that he'd land up in Alonso's gearbox.
 
quovadis said:
No, it's the time difference he would've taken to move that 100m distance with/without lifting off. Watch the onboard in slomo, Russell did gain a bit but hardly to the extent that he'd land up in Alonso's gearbox.
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To lose the time, means he was behind on the tarmac not so? 100m is quite some distance. Intent or not... to lose that much time at a single corner like that, at those speeds, is alot, not the 'fraction' you seem to think it is.
 
MuterOfWorlds said:
To lose the time, means he was behind on the tarmac not so? 100m is quite some distance. Intent or not... to lose that much time at a single corner like that, at those speeds, is alot, not the 'fraction' you seem to think it is.
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Being 0.13s closer to Russell on a single corner isn't putting Russell in his gear box.
 
quovadis said:
I disagree, we've seen much better examples of erratic driving. The moment you require telemetry data to determine as such rather than tens of cameras and onboards of the incident it is getting a little ridiculous. It means now if a driver moves to block an attacker it's subject to review based on what was considered a "normal" entry and exit. It's really really odd.
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Martin Brundle called out that alonso was driving slowly literally 5s after the crash. It was visible to someone who knows
 
quovadis said:
I'm not disputing that he slowed. I just don't think its fair to characterise it as erratic imho.
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Erratic doesn't just mean unpredictable, it means anything out of the ordinary. Is it ordinary for people to cruise on the last lap of a race?
 
quovadis said:
Being 0.13s closer to Russell on a single corner isn't putting Russell in his gear box.
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Doesn't have to be on his gearbox for there to be a problem is the whole point. At those speeds, 0.1s is 100m.

A driver only reacting when on a gearbox is far too late for anything to ever matter at those speeds.
 
Baxteen said:
I was simply trying to put it into context for you that at those speeds even the 0.13s that was worked out earlier is enough to be seen as eratic driving
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Sure. My view is simply it's mischaracterised. We've seen closer racing with differing lines or defensive moves than lifting off like that.
 
quovadis said:
Sure. My view is simply it's mischaracterised. We've seen closer racing with differing lines or defensive moves than lifting off like that.
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That's the thing for me. Can't recall 'lifting off/braking' so much before normal zones and such ever being part of the 'defensive' play like that.

Each their own but to me seems Alonso (which apparently he has even said so himself?) made a mistake which per assessment of stewards ended up creating a potentially dangerous situation. Fine lines I guess.
 
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