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dotdan said:
No, I think he is holding out for RB or Merc but most likely will sign for Alpine or Williams.

Merc seems to be hoping Max does something crazy and leaves RB at the end of 2024.
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According to a recent interview with James Vowles, it's not looking too good for Sainz at Williams. Sainz is likely looking at 2026 and beyond already, hoping for one of the top seats to open up and may be wanting to treat Williams as a placeholder while they want more commitment.

I think we’ve been fairly forthright and open on who we’d like to sign,” he [James Vowles] told Talksport, “but that doesn’t mean it will necessarily happen. We know where we place in the grand scheme of things.”

Recent rumors suggested Sainz had irked Vowles by missing several decision deadlines and trying to limit the length or strength of a contract, so that he could keep his options open for a rapid follow-up move to a bigger team.

“What I would say is this,” Vowles continued. “What I want is a driver that also wants to be a part of our journey, that understands what Williams is about, both the old and the new, and wants that to be at the heart of what they’re doing driving-wise.

“And sometimes that doesn’t match up,” he added. “Sometimes it does, but that’s really important to me.”

When asked if he is implying that he doesn’t want Williams to be seen as a stepping-stone to a driver’s next and more preferred move, Vowles answered: “Correct.

“That’s important to me,” Vowles said. “And I want that to be at the foundation of a decision.”

At the same time, Vowles indicated that he understands Sainz’s reluctance. “I get it,” he said.

“To some extent, his dream was to be in a Ferrari or in a top team. That’s not happening. My goal behind is simply to lay it on the table. ‘This is what we can offer’.

“‘If you want it, great, we’re here. And if you don’t, not a problem’. We’re going to find our own pathway through to things. So his timeline might not be the same as my timeline is the best way of putting it.”
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www.autoracing1.com

F1 News: Sainz Jr. cannot use us as 'stepping stone' - Vowles

James Vowles says he does not want Carlos Sainz Jr. to sign with Williams if the Ferrari refugee sees the seat as a mere stepping-stone to his next big move.
www.autoracing1.com
 
I can see both sides point here, but I think Sainz is playing dangerous game. It just seems to me that he is hoping and praying that Max makes a move this year.. perhaps he has some insider info that we don't
 
dotdan said:
I can see both sides point here, but I think Sainz is playing dangerous game. It just seems to me that he is hoping and praying that Max makes a move this year.. perhaps he has some insider info that we don't
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He screwed himself. Was hoping to play most teams for a one year contract while he looked for a better long term deal, and they all saw through it. Max ain't going anywhere.

His best shot was securing the Audi contract, while trying to look for a seat for next year. But he did it the other way around and now risks getting nothing...
 
dotdan said:
I can see both sides point here, but I think Sainz is playing dangerous game. It just seems to me that he is hoping and praying that Max makes a move this year.. perhaps he has some insider info that we don't
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Red Bull should ditch Perez and sign Sainz. I would have taken Sainz over Perez in the first place.
 
Apparently the RB door is closed for Sainz. The two driver dads did not get along back in the Torro Rosso days so they don't want that shyte again.

Merc probably is an option, but I still think Toto is keeping his Max card close to his heart. At most Sainz would get a year deal.
 
Naks said:
Err... No way Sainz can beat Max in the same car. Sure, Sainz is a very good driver, and will be closer to MV than Perez usually is, but he won't out and out beat him, unless MV has mechanical issues.
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Given the right equipment I think he could, and the second seat at MB is closed, despite not having a driver, because he would pose a threat to George. Le Clerc is meant to be the golden boy but Sainz has out performed him since day one. I think we are all underestimating his skill and tenacity and his father is a good mentor to keep him focused.
 
caroper said:
Le Clerc is meant to be the golden boy but Sainz has out performed him since day one.
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OMG. So Sainz finished 2nd in the championship in 2022?
Sainz had 150 GP starts before his first win. Only one other driver beat that stats, Perez. Go figure.
Just another example how crazy these MBB F1 fans are. Leclerc gets 3 times Sainz's salary, but the F1 bosses know nothing, just ask MBB experts.
 
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