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dotdan said:
I can't wait for the team in fighting next year to see who has the biggest tottie

Lewis and Charles
Lando and Oscar
Sainz and Hulk/Albon/Gasly
Max and Russel??? (I am hoping this happens)
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Max has the biggest tottie. Says so in his name.
 
dotdan said:
Yeah, you could see the frustration creep in and then sommer take it out on Lewis.

But, this is the big leagues. As full of shyte Max can be, at least he knows where to cut it off and move on. Lando still needs to learn otherwise he is going to get a real douchebag rep very quickly. I wonder what Lewis was thinking afterwards when Lando got all defensive.
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yeah true lando is a nice guy but lately its been a different lando .. a fighting hurt one

he made mess ups in last few races so all his doing
 
I wonder if there will actually be any friction at Ferrari next year. I think those two will get on well, particularly in Hamilton's first year. I can't see him upsetting the apple cart too much, especially while he is getting up to speed with the car and the very different ethos at the Italian marque.
 
Agent_Smith said:
I wonder if there will actually be any friction at Ferrari next year. I think those two will get on well, particularly in Hamilton's first year. I can't see him upsetting the apple cart too much, especially while he is getting up to speed with the car and the very different ethos at the Italian marque.
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Also curious about this. He seems to be pretty friendly with most of the drivers on the grid and he and Charles introduced their dogs to each other recently so I don't see much friction there.

Besides, Charles is quite inconsistent at the moment. If he remains that way there won't be much cause for friction I don't think.
 
Eish. Been working whole day and see the DTS fans went berserk. So let me just update you all how F1 works.

Max best, he give his all and expect the team to do the same. If you that good, you may go a bit over the top sometimes.
Hamilton gentleman? I must have been dreaming the last two years when I thought he constantly complains how bad the car is, about bad tire and pitstop strategies his team put him on. Or even wanting to quit races halfway.
But let me guess if Max do it, he is bad, anyone else do the same, no problem. Go DTS.
OH Charles still better than Sainz. Even with his last few bad races in a car that obviously does not work for him, he still ahead of Sainz.
Oh and old age and F1 still does not work. Stroll is almost at Alonso level and soon will start beating him regularly.
Hamilton will not trouble Leclerc, he is just there for the fanfare next year.

Oh and I told you all after Austria that this complaining about moving under braking is ridiculous and will come back to haunt the complainers and the sport. Everyone does that. It have always been part of F1. There is no way to decide what is just moving under braking to obstruct a rival or moving under braking to make the corner.
 
Jean Claude Vaaldamme said:
Eish. Been working whole day and see the DTS fans went berserk. So let me just update you all how F1 works.

Max best, he give his all and expect the team to do the same. If you that good, you may go a bit over the top sometimes.
Hamilton gentleman? I must have been dreaming the last two years when I thought he constantly complains how bad the car is, about bad tire and pitstop strategies his team put him on. Or even wanting to quit races halfway.
But let me guess if Max do it, he is bad, anyone else do the same, no problem. Go DTS.
OH Charles still better than Sainz. Even with his last few bad races in a car that obviously does not work for him, he still ahead of Sainz.
Oh and old age and F1 still does not work. Stroll is almost at Alonso level and soon will start beating him regularly.
Hamilton will not trouble Leclerc, he is just there for the fanfare next year.

Oh and I told you all after Austria that this complaining about moving under braking is ridiculous and will come back to haunt the complainers and the sport. Everyone does that. It have always been part of F1. There is no way to decide what is just moving under braking to obstruct a rival or moving under braking to make the corner.
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This is stupid. I've seen better text written by Kamala Harris. This is reminiscent of Amber Hurd in that one thread.

Just the bold part alone was Verstappen through this entire race. The entire race.

Verstappen is great, nobody is denying that. That doesn't mean he doesn't do idiotic things, like try torpedo Lewis by braking way too late for a corner he can't make, because he is desperate. Just own his mistakes man. Everyone makes them. He doesn't make many, but he did make one there. It's okay. Nobody thinks less of him because of it.

Age is certainly a factor. Crappy cars are a factor too. One must think about all aspects of F1, not just each bit as a compartmentalized factor. Alonso will never win in that piece of crap. Lewis couldn't win either when he had a piece of crap. Then the car wasn't as crap for one race and he did win. Max wouldn't win in either of those cars either, the cars are just too slow to take the fight to the leaders. He had exactly the same issue this race. It's not all about the car, or the driver. It requires both. Perez is a good example of requiring a driver and Max this weekend was a good example of requiring the car.

Hamilton won't have to trouble LeClerc, he just needs to be consistent and that alone will beat LeClerc because LeClerc is a strobe light during loadshedding.
 
UrBaN963 said:
Verstappen is great, nobody is denying that. That doesn't mean he doesn't do idiotic things, like try torpedo Lewis by braking way too late for a corner he can't make, because he is desperate. Just own his mistakes man. Everyone makes them. He doesn't make many, but he did make one there. It's okay. Nobody thinks less of him because of it.
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But Lando did exactly the same dive bomb on Max at Austria, came in to fast, locked his tires and Max had to swerve out and go of the track to avoid a collision.
But then Lando was not ridiculed. He was the victim and Max moved under breaking and left the track and got the advantage.
I am not saying Max is right. I am saying according to people here Max is always wrong, but the Brits are right when they do exactly the same thing.
 
Jean Claude Vaaldamme said:
But Lando did exactly the same dive bomb on Max at Austria, came in to fast, locked his tires and Max had to swerve out and go of the track to avoid a collision.
But then Lando was not ridiculed. He was the victim and Max moved under breaking and left the track and got the advantage.
I am not saying Max is right. I am saying according to people here Max is always wrong, but the Brits are right when they do exactly the same thing.
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Max is certainly not always wrong. He was wrong when moved under braking though. He even got a penalty for it if I remember correctly. So yea, he was wrong there. Lewis didn't move under braking so he didn't get a penalty. There's almost a correlation there, I'm sure of it.
 
UrBaN963 said:
Max is certainly not always wrong. He was wrong when moved under braking though. He even got a penalty for it if I remember correctly. So yea, he was wrong there. Lewis didn't move under braking so he didn't get a penalty. There's almost a correlation there, I'm sure of it.
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Nope he got a penalty for causing a collision, not moving under breaking. And this is the problem. I have said this morning/yesterday when referring to the Max's divebomb that Lando did exactly the same in Austria. Now guess what. The collision was not when Lando dive bombed. It was one or two moves before that. I even showed a video here.
So you all like to make little statements. Quote my posts, counter arguments, but you did not even look at what I am saying, or you can't comprehend or you just plainly know I am right and then trying to divert.

So let me say it the last time. Go look at the Austria race. Lando's second or third attempt to pass Max he dive bomb Max on the inside and locks up with to much speed. Exactly like Max did to Lewis. Only difference is Max swerved to avoid a collision and then went of track. Nobody complained about Lando's dive bomb. It was all Max moved, Max went of track and gained advantage.

So please. Go look at it. If you think its not exactly the same, give us some evidence. Otherwise please stop quoting me with stupid unrelated arguments.
 
Here it is again at 5:10. If you look a lap or two earlier, another similar divebomb that nobody complained about.
 
Jean Claude Vaaldamme said:
Nope he got a penalty for causing a collision, not moving under breaking. And this is the problem. I have said this morning/yesterday when referring to the Max's divebomb that Lando did exactly the same in Austria. Now guess what. The collision was not when Lando dive bombed. It was one or two moves before that. I even showed a video here.
So you all like to make little statements. Quote my posts, counter arguments, but you did not even look at what I am saying, or you can't comprehend or you just plainly know I am right and then trying to divert.

So let me say it the last time. Go look at the Austria race. Lando's second or third attempt to pass Max he dive bomb Max on the inside and locks up with to much speed. Exactly like Max did to Lewis. Only difference is Max swerved to avoid a collision and then went of track. Nobody complained about Lando's dive bomb. It was all Max moved, Max went of track and gained advantage.

So please. Go look at it. If you think its not exactly the same, give us some evidence. Otherwise please stop quoting me with stupid unrelated arguments.
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Here you go.
Max is indeed not treated the same.



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FIA releases Abu Dhabi report: 'Human error' a factor in Max Verstappen, Lewis Hamilton title controversy

The FIA have released its full report into last years Abu Dhabi GP title finale, hours before qualifying for the 2022 season-opening Bahrain GP; Report finds human error was a factor in controversy and that Michael Masi broke rules, but also has mitigating words for race director
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Willie Trombone said:
Here you go.
Max is indeed not treated the same.



www.skysports.com

FIA releases Abu Dhabi report: 'Human error' a factor in Max Verstappen, Lewis Hamilton title controversy

The FIA have released its full report into last years Abu Dhabi GP title finale, hours before qualifying for the 2022 season-opening Bahrain GP; Report finds human error was a factor in controversy and that Michael Masi broke rules, but also has mitigating words for race director
www.skysports.com www.skysports.com
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OMG
"Wittich is believed to have said that what should have happened was for Verstappen to be given a black-and-white warning flag"
"Team principal Andrea Stella said: "We are happy because I think the FIA have expressed their opinion around what happened in Austria and we are satisfied that this opinion confirms that our understanding straight after the race was correct, and during the race to some extent."
"And I think we all came to the conclusion that a warning should have been given to Max, if not black and white flag. And this would have prevented an escalation that led to the collision."

LOL OK
 
I am a big fan of Max, not so much of Lewis but one thing they have in common is they can bitch and moan a lot. Wonder if the greats like Sienna, Schumi, Fabio Fangio etc. was also like this?
 
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GrootVoet said:
I am a big fan of Max, not so much of Lewis but one thing they have in common is they can bitch and moan a lot. Wonder if the greats like Sienna, Schumi, Fabio etc. was also like this?
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OH yes they were. Or at least Schumi and Senna. Thats what makes them great. If Leclerc was maybe less of a nice guy he would also get better results.
Problem is more if you an A hole but you only have 1 safety car assist victory.

Oh and this is the only Fabio I know, but I don't watch DTS so I havent seen him racing. Ask @quovadis and @UrBaN963 if he is also like the greats.
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Jean Claude Vaaldamme said:
OH yes they were. Or at least Schumi and Senna. Thats what makes them great. If Leclerc was maybe less of a nice guy he would also get better results.
Problem is more if you an A hole but you only have 1 safety car assist victory.

Oh and this is the only Fabio I know, but I don't watch DTS so I havent seen him racing. Ask @quovadis and @UrBaN963 if he is also like the greats.
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