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quovadis said:
When has McLaren ever picked a driver over another for the rest of a season? Mclarens front tyre deg was far greater than Ferrari - they were never going to pull off a 1 stop and even Lando acknowledged that. You're arguing over a maximum 2 pt difference.
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McLaren's front tyre deg was as a result of them racing each other. Not just my opinon. Lewis said the same thing.
 
quovadis said:
The whole Hungary thing was a mess but everyone forgets that if Oscar had've demanded first option (being in the lead) Lando pitting later than he did would've likely have had the same affect on Lando as it did on Oscar relegating Lando to a lower position and perhaps jeopardising the teams 1-2. That's why he "needs the team and Oscar". If Oscar is unwilling in the future as a result of not returning the benefit it'd be worse for Lando.
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Blah blah, same result. Lando gets told to pit first then told to hand over the position. That's team orders despite Lando having significantly more points. When it bites them in the bum I wonder what they'll tell sponsors?
 
quovadis said:
Mclaren has never had a designated #1 driver.
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We're not talking about a "designated #1 driver" like Ferrari tend to do on occasion. We're talking about team orders for the sake of the DWC or any other reason - like we've just seen in Hungary.
Every team has a #1 driver at some point if a championship is involved.
 
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Willie Trombone said:
Blah blah, same result. Lando gets told to pit first then told to hand over the position. That's team orders despite Lando having significantly more points. When it bites them in the bum I wonder what they'll tell sponsors?
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HUH. Teams have always gave the driver in the lead the first choice to pit. Mclaren pitted Lando first to cover an undercut behind him and then by that they undercut Piastri for the lead. Thats why they told Lando to give the position back. Because it was unfair, he did nothing the get the position and it was unfair to Piastri who was leading the race. Simple as that. Many teams have done the same in the past.
 
Willie Trombone said:
We're not talking about a "designated #1 driver" like Ferrari tend to do on occasion. We're talking about team orders for the sake of the DWC or any other reason - like we've just seen in Hungary.
Every team has a #1 driver at some point if a championship is involved.
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But you are confidant that Lando cannot win the WDC, so why would Mclaren be different and say we need team orders?
 
Willie Trombone said:
We're not talking about a "designated #1 driver" like Ferrari tend to do on occasion. We're talking about team orders for the sake of the DWC or any other reason - like we've just seen in Hungary.
Every team has a #1 driver at some point if a championship is involved.
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You asked what they tell sponsors. That’s it. In hungary lando was gifted his undercut thats why it was reversed. If lando didn’t give it back it would be the end of anything of similar nature in the future. They’ll race and frankly I’d be disappointed if team orders became a thing where it wasn’t a guaranteed win for either driver and not some hypothetical possibility.
 
Tinuva said:
Initially when I got F1TV, also started out watching the Sky Sport stream. Then eventually got annoyed by the BritBias and switched to F1TV stream. After 2 weeks I really enjoyed and now I just don't see myself watching the Sky stream ever again.
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The guys who watch on F1TV never complain about the commentary team because there's literally nothing to complain about. It's all neutral, knowledgeable stuff. I mean, Alex Jacques, Jolyon Palmer and David Coulthard is already amazing, add in Will Buxton, Sam Collins and Alex Brundle and it's perfect. Although that trackside Italian fella was a bit weird this last race , but they used him sparingly at least😅
 
Decarin said:
The guys who watch on F1TV never complain about the commentary team because there's literally nothing to complain about. It's all neutral, knowledgeable stuff. I mean, Alex Jacques, Jolyon Palmer and David Coulthard is already amazing, add in Will Buxton, Sam Collins and Alex Brundle and it's perfect. Although that trackside Italian fella was a bit weird this last race , but they used him sparingly at least😅
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My complaint with F1TV is literally the commentary. I switch to the international stream because I prefer Brundle and co… and when you switch, if you’re casting you have to switch before you cast and you have to be prepared for it to go live rather than from the start of you happen to be watching delayed. It’s been buggy from the start.

Seems I’m not alone: https://www.reddit.com/r/F1TV/s/oxBP26cpR7
 
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Willie Trombone said:
My complaint with F1TV is literally the commentary. I switch to the international stream because I prefer Brundle and co… and when you switch, if you’re casting you have to switch before you cast and you have to be prepared for it to go live rather than from the start of you happen to be watching delayed. It’s been buggy from the start.

Seems I’m not alone: https://www.reddit.com/r/F1TV/s/oxBP26cpR7
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That Reddit thread is ironic. Most votes goes to Sky F1 presenters, but then literally the top most upvoted comments are all about the good of F1TV presenters and the issues with Crofty etc.

Also, that vote was before some of the recent people like Ruth Buscombe joined. She for example gives excellent insights as to what teams are thinking with their strategy and calls and her predictions with how she gets to them are usually super insightful.

Anyways, luckily we live in a world of choice. You get what you want with Sky presenters and I get what I want from the F1TV presenters.

As for your casting bug, that is really unfortunate. Can't say I experienced that. The streaming works greats on android based players. Though, I wish I could have a dedicated setup for Multiviewer :cautious:
 
Decarin said:
The guys who watch on F1TV never complain about the commentary team because there's literally nothing to complain about. It's all neutral, knowledgeable stuff. I mean, Alex Jacques, Jolyon Palmer and David Coulthard is already amazing, add in Will Buxton, Sam Collins and Alex Brundle and it's perfect. Although that trackside Italian fella was a bit weird this last race , but they used him sparingly at least😅
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Yes, I FF through that, can't handle him at all.
 
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