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Tinuva said:
I have. What you trying to tell me.
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He's not the child anymore that posted memes on his social media account and made funnies with Sainz and Danny Ric. He has matured and emerged as a title contender and that also entails an attitude shift. And that includes being selfish and backing yourself.

Being a nice guy and having a laugh won't win you championships. Max has appeared casual in his recent titles because he had such an enormous advantage but go back to 2021 and now where he doesn't have that advantage, and his ruthless streak and demanding nature are on display. We all saw how Max drove against Lando in Austria, that was 2021 Max. No quarter given. We've all heard Max rage over the radio about his car. Drivers in title fights cannot be blase and have a soft touch. You won't get anywhere and especially against Max. He'll eat you alive.
 
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I like Lando, he's a good kid. He's quick and he's shown more than once that he can take the fight to Max and Charles on their best days, which is great. He's actually quite a fun and positive guy when he's not racing. I think the "attitude" or vibe or whatever he gives off after narrowly losing is probably something like dread as he doesn't know when next he'll be this close to winning a championship. He's hard on himself sometimes. Charles has been through this quite a few more times than Lando so as a result he's much more calm about things this time around. Oscar though... Damn. That's the temprament of a future world champ right there. I have a feeling Lando will be a lot calmer in years to come.
 
thestaggy said:
He's not the child anymore that posted memes on his social media account and made funnies with Sainz and Danny Ric. He has matured and emerged as a title contender and that also entails an attitude shift. And that includes being selfish and backing yourself.
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Don't agree that he has matured. If anything it would be the opposite.
 
Tinuva said:
Don't agree that he has matured. If anything it would be the opposite.
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You can think what you like.

He has reduced his social media presence and focused more on his racing and has backed himself as someone his team need to support. 'Papaya rules' will not win them a driver's championship and of all teams McLaren should know this. 2008 and DC nearly screwing Hakkinen in 99. Comes a point in the season where the team has to make a decision and McLaren left it late, contributing to Lando's frustrations.
 
Wrath of Khan said:
Let us not forget the lengths they went to to make Mercedes the new hybrid leaders and remove Ferrari, waaaay before the engines came to the F1 paddock, Mercedes were testing them etc etc etc...

If this rear wing is some magic thingie then the other teams will pounce on it asap, they may now be waiting for the FIA to ban them, but I haven't seen anything. I still cannot understand how the RB went from ultra dominant to finishing 6th at best and with a serious struggle.. something doesn't add up, it's not hard to see that some rule has been bent by other teams or some parts have been removed by RB etc etc..
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Let's not pretend that RB is completely innocent, they've done some dodgy schit too. How do you think they ended up with a dominant car in the first place.

All teams do dodgy schit to get ahead of the other. Finding loopholes in the rules is as much a part of the sport as the actual racing. Do you think Aston and Ferrari just wanted Newey because of his aero skillz?

All we can do is wait and see what the FIA rules on the matter...
 
Tinuva said:
Don't agree that he has matured. If anything it would be the opposite.
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Yeah that little tantrum he threw when Lewis congratulated him on the fast car was where I kinda saw that he was a bit of a dick. The "If he does not apologize we cant be friends" was also testament on his weak mind.

Oscar is cold and calm. I would be very worried about him if I was Lando.
 
yeah I liked Lando... then he became some township kwaito star with a serious attitude and I was like, goodbye! He rates himself and his dropped lip and sulking towards his teammate and other drivers shows his lack of brain cells, grow up.

Oscar is genuine, hope he stays that way <-- ultra cool and calm, this man has legend material.
 
F1 is in a great place right now.

No idea who is going to win the next few races and next year is wide open.

New rookies. Hopefully another one or two in RB and Sauber.

Then in 2026 it all gets jumbled again with the new regs.

Great stuff. They just need to cut down on all this cookie-cutter driver media management. It's the only thing running the sport for me.
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
Let's not pretend that RB is completely innocent, they've done some dodgy schit too. How do you think they ended up with a dominant car in the first place.

All teams do dodgy schit to get ahead of the other. Finding loopholes in the rules is as much a part of the sport as the actual racing. Do you think Aston and Ferrari just wanted Newey because of his aero skillz?

All we can do is wait and see what the FIA rules on the matter...
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F1 engineers and designers are always one-step ahead. Who could the FIA employ to be one step ahead of Adrian Newey? It is why so many technical directives are reactive to what a team may be doing.

I wish I could find the article, but a lot of the teams also have a team of lawyers go over the rulebook to find the grey areas where wording can be argued as ambiguous.
 
Wrath of Khan said:
Let us not forget the lengths they went to to make Mercedes the new hybrid leaders and remove Ferrari, waaaay before the engines came to the F1 paddock, Mercedes were testing them etc etc etc...

If this rear wing is some magic thingie then the other teams will pounce on it asap, they may now be waiting for the FIA to ban them, but I haven't seen anything. I still cannot understand how the RB went from ultra dominant to finishing 6th at best and with a serious struggle.. something doesn't add up, it's not hard to see that some rule has been bent by other teams or some parts have been removed by RB etc etc..
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Goes without saying.
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
Let's not pretend that RB is completely innocent, they've done some dodgy schit too. How do you think they ended up with a dominant car in the first place.

All teams do dodgy schit to get ahead of the other. Finding loopholes in the rules is as much a part of the sport as the actual racing. Do you think Aston and Ferrari just wanted Newey because of his aero skillz?

All we can do is wait and see what the FIA rules on the matter...
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The only reason the FIA don't declare half their decisions is to keep the peace with fans.
 
quovadis said:

“However, if a team successfully passes all deflection tests and adheres to the regulations and technical directives, they are deemed to be in full compliance, and no further action will be taken.”
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However, the debate is about whether deliberately designing a wing to flex in the manner it does goes against FIA guidance in terms of what is deemed to be acceptable flexing.

In a still current technical directive (TD34) from the FIA that offers guidelines on flexing wings, it is made that clear that certain behaviours will not be tolerated even if wings are passed as legal in the pits.
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One team boss told Motorsport.com: “Aero elasticity has been a factor for many, many years now, and even if a wing passes the FIA test the regulations remain very clear - the component cannot be designed to flex.
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