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Willie Trombone said:
Mclaren were the only Mercedes I really enjoyed. Neither team has been the same since the split. I have loads of respect for Toto though. Professional to a T and great at what he does.
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Mercedes have racked up enough championships in both. Next year should hopefully be a great season if teams are close as they are now but 2026 will be a new era and who knows who will dominate - could be Mercedes again, might be RB, might not be...
 
quovadis said:
Mercedes have racked up enough championships in both. Next year should hopefully be a great season if teams are close as they are now but 2026 will be a new era and who knows who will dominate - could be Mercedes again, might be RB, might not be...
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To put it another way, I was always more a fan of team Ron Dennis than Norbert Haug. Toto redeemed Merc somewhat for me but I'm still a Macca fan.
 
quovadis said:
There’s certainly been variety. Felt bad for Ron and very surprised he left for good…
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By then Ron Dennis was Rich, Tired of the politics, had already achieved more than most other team principals could even dream of and will forever be known as the man that nurtured Lewis Hamilton from junior karting to his first F1 World Championship.

I know that many people didn't like him but I was a Ron Dennis fan as much as I was a Mclaren fan. He ran the team on the principals that Bruce McLaren represented and was the only man that could keep Bernie Ecclestone in check.

Zak Brown on the other hand almost made me wish I wasn't a McLaren fan.

This year made me think again, Norris and Piastri both have great talent / potential and with LH moving to Ferrari, the arch enemy,;) I am back to wearing my Mclaren Kit on F1 Weekends.

Next year will be fun and 2026 will shake it all up again, so I am still in for the long run.
 
caroper said:
Zak Brown on the other hand almost made me wish I wasn't a McLaren fan.
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I’ll just add that McLaren has gone racing and in more ways than ever before. I think McLarens history and future has been preserved by his involvement. And it’s just the beginning….
 
Willie Trombone said:
Lewis Hamilton's records

Career Wins and Podiums
• Most Race Wins: 103 wins
• Most Pole Positions: 104 pole positions
• Most Podiums: 196 podium finishes
• Most Points Finishes: Over 300 points-scoring finishes
• Most Wins at the Same Grand Prix: 8 wins (Hungarian GP and British GP)
• Most Consecutive Seasons with at Least One Win: 15 (2007–2021)

Championship Records
• Most World Championships: 7 (tied with Michael Schumacher)
• Most Consecutive World Championships: 4 (2017–2020)
• Most Points in a Single Season (Under 25 Points Per Win System): 413 points (2019)
• Most Total Career Points: Over 4500 points
• Highest Average Points Per Season: Approximately 300+

Qualifying Records
• Most Pole Positions in a Season: 12 (2016)
• Most Consecutive Front Row Starts: 33 (2016–2017)
• Most Front Row Starts: Over 180

Consistency Records
• Most Consecutive Points Finishes: 48 (2018–2020)
• Most Consecutive Seasons with at Least One Pole: 15 (2007–2021)
• Most Consecutive Seasons with at Least 10 Wins: 5 (2016–2020)

Grand Prix Specific Records
• Most Wins at a Single Circuit: 8 (Hungaroring and Silverstone)
• Most Wins in the Turbo-Hybrid Era (2014–present): Over 80
• Most Wins from Pole Position: Over 60

Milestone Records
• First Driver to Win 100 Grands Prix (achieved at the 2021 Russian Grand Prix)
• First Driver to Secure Pole Position at 30 Different Circuits
• Youngest Driver to Lead the World Championship (at the time, in 2007, aged 22)

Miscellaneous Records
• Most Laps Led in F1 History: Over 5,400 laps
• Most Wins in a Debut Season: 4 (2007, tied with Jacques Villeneuve)
• Most Podiums in a Single Season: 17 (2015, 2016, 2018, 2019)
• Most Grand Slams in a Season: 3 (2017)

Collaboration Records
• Most Wins with a Single Team: Over 80 with Mercedes
• Most Points for a Single Team: Over 3500 points with Mercedes

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Achievements by decade
2000s: The Prodigy Emerges
• 2007: Sensational Rookie Season
• Debuted with McLaren, nearly winning the championship in his first season.
• Achieved 4 wins, 6 pole positions, and 9 consecutive podiums to start his career (a record for a rookie).
• Finished 2nd in the championship, just one point behind Kimi Räikkönen.
• 2008: First World Championship
• Won his first F1 title, becoming the youngest champion at the time (23 years, 300 days).
• Secured victory in the dramatic Brazilian Grand Prix finale, passing Timo Glock on the last lap to clinch the championship by a single point.

2010s: The Dominance Era Begins
• 2014–2015: Back-to-Back Titles in the Turbo-Hybrid Era
• With Mercedes, Hamilton adapted quickly to the new regulations, securing back-to-back championships.
• In 2014, won 11 races, setting the stage for a dominant run.
• In 2015, won 10 races and clinched the title with 3 races to spare, outpacing teammate Nico Rosberg.
• 2017–2020: Historic Four Consecutive Titles
• Won 4 championships in a row, bringing his total to 7, tying Michael Schumacher’s record.
• In 2019, scored 413 points, the most in a single season under the modern scoring system.

• Milestones in the 2010s:
• Most wins in the decade: 73.
• Most pole positions in the decade: 84.
• Became the first driver to surpass 100 career pole positions and broke Schumacher’s record for most career wins.

2020s: Cementing the Legacy
• 2020: Seventh World Championship
• Equaled Michael Schumacher’s record of 7 world titles.
• Won 11 of 17 races in a COVID-shortened season.
• Dominated the Turkish Grand Prix, winning from 6th on the grid in challenging wet conditions to clinch the title.

• 2021: The Epic Verstappen Duel
• Won 8 races and had one of the most intense championship battles in F1 history with Max Verstappen.
• Lost the championship in controversial circumstances at the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, but his performances underscored his resilience and adaptability.

• 2023 and Beyond:
• While Mercedes faced challenges adapting to new regulations, Hamilton continued to push the team forward, showing consistency and leadership as F1’s elder statesman.
• Extended records for most wins, poles, and podiums, maintaining his presence at the top.
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I'd say the luckiest driver ever in F1 history
Don't get me wrong, he's very very good... but his records come from joining a winning team from day 1, otherwise his records would be in half, still great by no means. Imagine he joined a lower team for 4 years then only a winning team. It's like saying imagine Senna joined McLaren from day 1 instead of all those years at Toleman and Lotus, his records would be astronomical.
 
Wrath of Khan MD said:
I'd say the luckiest driver ever in F1 history
Don't get me wrong, he's very very good... but his records come from joining a winning team from day 1, otherwise his records would be in half, still great by no means. Imagine he joined a lower team for 4 years then only a winning team. It's like saying imagine Senna joined McLaren from day 1 instead of all those years at Toleman and Lotus, his records would be astronomical.
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Yes let’s ignore the fact that McLaren hasnt won a constructors championship in 26 years or Lewis’ success his entire career.
 
Wrath of Khan MD said:
I'd say the luckiest driver ever in F1 history
Don't get me wrong, he's very very good... but his records come from joining a winning team from day 1, otherwise his records would be in half, still great by no means. Imagine he joined a lower team for 4 years then only a winning team. It's like saying imagine Senna joined McLaren from day 1 instead of all those years at Toleman and Lotus, his records would be astronomical.
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I think Lando and Checo proved the whole fastest car thing to be hogwash. He has these records because of how good he was/is. You can be the luckiest guy in the world in the fastest car, without talent it's useless.
 
quovadis said:
Yes let’s ignore the fact that McLaren hasnt won a constructors championship in 26 years or Lewis’ success his entire career.
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we're talking about when he entered F1... McLaren was a winning team, they won 8 races that year.
 
Craig_ said:
I think Lando and Checo proved the whole fastest car thing to be hogwash. He has these records because of how good he was/is. You can be the luckiest guy in the world in the fastest car, without talent it's useless.
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McLaren are by the far the fastest car in the second part of this season, they've already won 5 races this year.
Now imagine this was Landos first year (so a 5 year head start in F1) next year if the pace is constant he or Oscar will walk the championship.
 
Wrath of Khan MD said:
McLaren are by the far the fastest car in the second part of this season, they've already won 5 races this year.
Now imagine this was Landos first year (so a 5 year head start in F1) next year if the pace is constant he or Oscar will walk the championship.
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True, but he should have won more. Imagine Stroll in a Newey Aston soon, I bet he will be racking up records in no time.

You can be lucky, but you need talent, without which luck is nothing...
 
Craig_ said:
True, but he should have won more. Imagine Stroll in a Newey Aston soon, I bet he will be racking up records in no time.

You can be lucky, but you need talent, without which luck is nothing...
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clearly didn't read what I wrote : "Don't get me wrong, he's very very good..."

whilst other drivers normally "waste" 4 years or so trying to get into a winning team, he was lucky enough to start in one. Hence why I mentioned Senna and his years

and please don't think by Newey coming to a team and then as if by magic in 3 months the car will start winning... it takes a looong time to develop a car around every other part.
 
Wrath of Khan MD said:
I'd say the luckiest driver ever in F1 history
Don't get me wrong, he's very very good... but his records come from joining a winning team from day 1, otherwise his records would be in half, still great by no means. Imagine he joined a lower team for 4 years then only a winning team. It's like saying imagine Senna joined McLaren from day 1 instead of all those years at Toleman and Lotus, his records would be astronomical.
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Every WC to date has been lucky. It's a given.
That's completely independent of being talented.
The thing with talented drivers is they're generally more marketable... but even making the decision to go to the right team is conscious. Hamilton moving to Merc and joining Macca wasn't luck. He started wooing Ron Dennis when he was a lighty.
 
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