F1 - General discussion and 2017

Heavyonthemagick said:
^^either way it cost him 30 seconds and was a legit penalty
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Oh, yes, I haven't said at any stage it wasn't. Just that what he was trying to do was legal but he carried it on just too far. He made the mistake and so paid for it.

Next time he should think a little quicker ;)
 
Race Highlights for anyone that missed the race:

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Honda to trial new ideas in Bahrain F1 test

Honda is to trial new ideas in this week's post-Bahrain Grand Prix test as it continues efforts to try to recover from a disappointing start to the campaign.

The Japanese manufacturer is well aware that it needs to unlock more power from its 2017 power unit ahead of a planned upgraded specification coming on tap in the next few races.

As part of that effort, Honda's F1 chief Yusuke Hasegawa says some development concepts will be trialled by McLaren's Oliver Turvey and Stoffel Vandoorne this week to help improve understanding of what needs to be done.

"Some of the ideas [will be tested]," Hasegawa told Motorsport.com about the plans for Bahrain. "But it will not be a totally [new engine]."

Honda had originally slated the introduction of an upgraded power unit for around the time of the Monaco or Canadian Grands Prix, but there are suggestions that an interim step could now be brought in for the Spanish GP too.

Hasegawa has drawn short of putting a firm date on the plan though.

"We don't decide to disclose," he said. "I have my target but because it is not ready we don't say. I don't want to give the fans too much expectation, so I will wait."

But he has made it clear that Honda is not being conservative in its ambitions to make progress as quick as it can, after the frustrations of recent races.
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Hamilton: Bahrain test crucial for Mercedes F1 fightback

Lewis Hamilton thinks the Formula 1 test that got underway today in Bahrain will be crucial in helping his Mercedes team answer the big "question mark" it has over how to make better use of 2017 tyres.

Rivals Ferrari appear better able to extract life out of the new rubber this year, and its SF70H is more comfortable on the softest compounds and when temperatures rise.

Those factors have played a part in strategy decisions in the opening races – and Mercedes knows especially that getting more on top of tyre management is something that needs addressing.

Speaking ahead of today's first day of testing, Hamilton said: "We've got some work to do in the test - trying to strengthen the car, and strengthen our knowledge of the tyres, so we can be in a better position for the next race."

Hamilton will test in Bahrain today, with teammate Valtteri Bottas taking over on Wednesday.

While Mercedes does hold an advantage on single-lap pace – having taken pole position at every race so far this year – Ferrari's better long-run form means race days are much closer.

Hamilton has no doubts about the potential there is in the W08, and moving forward will be about unlocking that speed over more of a race.

"The car is obviously good," he said. "It's just how we use our tyres on race day, particularly when it gets a bit warmer.
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Gasly joins Red Bull for Bahrain test

Red Bull has announced Pierre Gasly will split driving duties with Daniel Ricciardo at the two-day test in Bahrain.

Gasly, who won last year's GP2 series, will be given a full day behind the wheel of the RB13 on Wednesday as Ricciardo kick-starts proceedings on Tuesday.

Gasly is no stranger to Red Bull, having tested for them at Silverstone last season and also taking part in a tyre test program in 2016, too.

The Frenchman has hopes of joining the Formula 1 grid in 2018 after missing out on a seat at Toro Rosso this season.
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Wolff grilled on Mercedes team orders

Mercedes boss Toto Wolff was reluctant to name Valtteri Bottas as the team's second driver despite the Finn being told to let Lewis Hamilton pass him in Bahrain.

Hamilton was trying to atone for his five-second penalty and chase down race leader Sebastian Vettel, but he needed Bottas to move out of the way in order for him to do so.

Wolff was quizzed about the team orders after the race, but would not confirm that this situation would be a sign of things to come just yet.

"We tried to maintain the order and not interfere because it is an awful call you need to make," Wolff told Sky Sports F1.

"We're only three races into the season so it is totally unfair to Valtteri to discuss it further.

"It's a very difficult decision [to name a clear one and two driver], a very tough call and I don't want to make it yet.

"You guys are grilling me. I'm really raw after a race so let me off the hook!"

As for the title fight with Ferrari, Wolff believes there is very little to choose between the Scuderia and the Silver Arrows.

He said: "We are very evenly matched. Maybe over a single lap we have a tiny little bit of a gap but maybe Ferrari are looking after the tyres better.

"You can't really judge just based on today as you don't know what the outcome would've been if Hamilton managed to get out in front at the beginning of the race."

Asked whether Hamilton's penalty was to blame for the Mercedes defeat, Wolff thought the lack of pace at the start was more detrimental to their chances.

He added: "When you look back there were a lot of little mistakes but the main thing was that in the beginning we couldn't drive with the pace that the car had.
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Confirmation that a motor problem is the reason why the MCL32 has not left its cubicle for three hours now.

Honda wanted to try "new ideas" during these two days of private testing in Bahrain, it starts rather badly ...

McLaren and Honda are changing the engine in Oliver Turvey's car after new reliability issues have hit them in Bahrain.

A water leak in the Energy Recovery Systems is the cause for all the trouble this time.

McLaren-Honda mechanics are going to miss lunch again.

Time Sheet at lunch:
1. Ricciardo Red Bull Racing RB13 1:32.349 43 ● PIT
2. Hamilton Mercedes W08 1:32.822 +0.473 31 ●
3. Hülkenberg Renault RS17 1:33.624 +1.275 43 ● PIT
4. Stroll Williams FW40 1:33.729 +1.380 35 ● PIT
5. Grosjean Haas F1 VF-17 1:33.848 +1.499 39 ● PIT
6. Giovinazzi Ferrari SF70-H 1:34.967 +2.618 66 ●
7. Vettel Ferrari SF70-H 1:35.043 +2.694 48 ● PIT
8. Ericsson Sauber C36 1:35.317 +2.968 52 ● PIT
9. Celis jr Force India VJM10 1:37.661 +5.312 21 ● PIT
10. Gelael Toro Rosso STR12 1:38.111 +5.762 27 ● PIT
11. Turvey McLaren MCL32 no time 2 ● PIT

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To top it off, the engine used by Turvey this morning was a new specification that arrived yesterday in Bahrain directly from the Honda plant in Japan at Tochigi...
 
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Mallya arrested in London

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Force India co-owner Vijay Mallya was been arrested by Scotland Yard on Tuesday morning on an extradition warrant.

Authorities in India want the business tycoon, claiming he owes an estimated £900million following the collapse of Kingfisher Airlines.

Despite multiple injunctions, Mallya has failed to appear before the Indian courts.

Last April his diplomatic passport was revoked when a warrant for his arrest was issued.

As such, earlier this year, India sent a formal request for Mallya to be extradited to India.

He was arrested on Tuesday.

The Metropolitan Police said: “Officers from the Metropolitan Police’s Extradition Unit have this morning, Tuesday 18 April arrested a man on an extraction warrant.

“Vijay Mallya, 61, was arrested on behalf of the Indian authorities in relation to accusations of fraud.”

The statement added that he was taken into custody after attending a central London police station and will appear at Westminster Magistrates’ Court.
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Force India are a team worthy of being bought out by a one of the larger motor companies in the world. Merc would be so tempted to adopt a B team right now like Ferrari and Red Bull have.
 
MCLAREN FIRES UP THE MCL32
Good news for McLaren fans, the team has just fired up the MCL32 again. The engine has been changed. Oliver Turvey is not yet in the car though.
 
Fox1 said:
Force India are a team worthy of being bought out by a one of the larger motor companies in the world. Merc would be so tempted to adopt a B team right now like Ferrari and Red Bull have.
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What are you talking about, Macca should buy them and just give that car a lick of paint. Problem solved :D
Who would have guessed...
 
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Mallya arrested in London



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That's pretty big news. They have been trying to bring him in for years now. How can you be making a wholesale loss in your businesses and still run an F1 team. Sounds like borrowing from Peter to pay Paul... using it as a tax break. Not helpful for employees. The article doesn't mention his booze business... I suspect it's hard to show a loss on that one lol.
 
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