F1 - General discussion and 2017

Can I also just say, that since Torro Rosso did away with that stupid gold coloured nose, the new STR is a damn fine looking machine. I thought last year's Sauber would be hard to top, but this looks amazing.
 
Agent_Smith said:
And thanks Caroper for the updates. That s**t deserves a rep! :D
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Thanks, much appreciated:)

As I am working at home, and watching 4 blogs anyway, aggregating them into a highlights feed for those of you stuck on the treadmill is not only a pleasure but a duty to like minded fans.
 
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This thread is more alive than during race day mid season when Merc are walking it ROFL
 
caroper said:
Thanks, much appreciated:)

As I am working at home, and watching 4 blogs anyway, aggregating them into a highlights feed for those of you stuck on the treadmill is not only a pleasure but a duty to like minded fans.
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And reps for the reminder that I should be on the treadmill :crylaugh:
 
caroper said:
An interesting take on Lance Stroll from Ted Kravitz, who has been trackside on Sky Sports News HQ.

"These cars are harder to drive, they are less forgiving than the cars of the previous four, five, six years," Ted says.

"So putting a rookie in is a risk, putting in rookie who hasn't even competed in the series directly below Formula 1 is an even higher risk, and putting in a guy who's only 18 years old, rather than Stoffel Vandoorne or someone like that, was another.

"Why did Williams do it? Money. You can't turn down the money he brought to the team."
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I have said repeatedly in this thread that putting teens behind the wheel of an F1 car is a huge risk. People have been blinded by Max's shining star and now they're all looking for the next wunderkid, but Max is very likely a once in a generation talent. And if we are honest, even he shows/showed his lack of experience at times.

The limits on testing time doesn't help either. Simulator work cannot replicate the real thing.
 
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I have said repeatedly in this thread that putting teens behind the wheel of an F1 car is a huge risk. People have been blinded by Max's shining star and now they're all looking for the next wunderkid, but Max is very likely a once in a generation talent. And if we are honest, even he shows/showed his lack of experience at times.

The limits on testing time doesn't help either. Simulator work cannot replicate the real thing.
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But was it not same issue with Alonso, Kimi, Seb and Lewis?

I agree that at times the immaturity does show but in terms of risk what bad transactions have the youngsters committed?

Bar Grosjean in his maiden years, Maldonado not fitting the criteria.
 
Overview and interviews
[video=youtube_share;yAE0R0NPouE]https://youtu.be/yAE0R0NPouE[/video]
 
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The Geek Stuff
[video=youtube_share;ElV2Pvg0lx0]https://youtu.be/ElV2Pvg0lx0[/video]
 
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Opinion
[video=youtube_share;vUV4dpj3tnQ]https://youtu.be/vUV4dpj3tnQ[/video]
 
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Testing in a nutshell
[video=youtube_share;YrwBVj7rvmY]https://youtu.be/YrwBVj7rvmY[/video]
 
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Polish said:
But was it not same issue with Alonso, Kimi, Seb and Lewis?

I agree that at times the immaturity does show but in terms of risk what bad transactions have the youngsters committed?

Bar Grosjean in his maiden years, Maldonado not fitting the criteria.
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+1, also, manufacturers are keen to break records and it's getting harder if you hire older drivers.
 
Polish said:
But was it not same issue with Alonso, Kimi, Seb and Lewis?

I agree that at times the immaturity does show but in terms of risk what bad transactions have the youngsters committed?

Bar Grosjean in his maiden years, Maldonado not fitting the criteria.
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With the exception of Lewis, the others had been exposed to an F1 car. Seb spent nearly two years as BMW's development and third driver and had participated in 5 F1 practice sessions when F1 allowed teams to run a young driver on a Friday. Alonso had the odd test for Minardi throughout 1999 and 2000. Lewis made up for his lack of F1 exposure by being the oldest (22-years) debutant of the lot and having the longest junior career (6 seasons in winged single-seaters, including GP2).

For a direct comparison, in order to obtain his Super Licence, Kimi ran a full, error free, race simulation (300 km plus pit stops) in a private test at Mugello. Stroll, like all young drivers can now, earned his Super Licence without ever touching an F1 car. If Stroll was in Raikkonen's position, he'd have failed his test while on the other hand Kimi would not have been allowed near an F1 car because he did not have enough experience in the junior formulae. Seems a bit odd to me.

An F3 car has 150 kW, GP3s sit at 300 kW, GP2s at 450 kW while F1 cars pump out 750+kW. F3 to F1 is a massive jump and Stroll is showing us how big it is. Hopefully he comes right, I am a Williams fan after all, but its been a torrid time for him and the team.

Maybe teams should be allowed to run older cars intermittently throughout the season and let youngsters potter about so they can get a feel for F1?
 
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Something to make everyone laugh, well maybe not @Polish :p

[video=youtube_share;JZWzWp5yPkk]https://youtu.be/JZWzWp5yPkk[/video]
 
I was watching "The Longest Day" on the other screen. Your timing was perfect :D
Problem is that I am now laughing at the Germans and it is a serious part of the movie.
 
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