Farm attack, Underberg

Do you think you could have gone and beaten them to death with a hammer?

No I have far too much respect for the human body and for life, however others do not and I can understand how the anger and resentment I felt can quickly turn into bloody revenge if I did not hold life in such high regard. I could never do this, but I understand.
 
No I have far too much respect for the human body and for life, however others do not and I can understand how the anger and resentment I felt can quickly turn into bloody revenge if I did not hold life in such high regard. I could never do this, but I understand.

You understand murdering someone because they owe you money thus rendering it impossible to ever get paid and you understand that murdering the person condemns you to life in prison.

You understand that? How is it possible to even grasp the concept of murdering someone who owes you money let alone understanding it?
 
You understand murdering someone because they owe you money thus rendering it impossible to ever get paid and you understand that murdering the person condemns you to life in prison.

You understand that? How is it possible to even grasp the concept of murdering someone who owes you money let alone understanding it?
For sure. There is no way it is understandable or excusable.
 
Apparently it was a money issue between Dan and one of the contract workers.

It's sad that a person gets bludgeoned to death over some chump change, but as I said to the dear chap unintel, lots of cases the perps know the victim.
 
You understand murdering someone because they owe you money thus rendering it impossible to ever get paid and you understand that murdering the person condemns you to life in prison.

You understand that? How is it possible to even grasp the concept of murdering someone who owes you money let alone understanding it?

I understand the rage that can drive someone to murder, especially when you're own life is ****ed and going down the financial tubes and the other guy is smiling at you and giving you the finger, what brings someone to that point of revenge I think some could grasp, I do. To carry it out is a whole different story, that's what separates me from being a criminal is that I understand consequences, have responsibilities and have tremendous compassion for people.
 
Wait a second, is that the story to the OP, money owed fit of rage or is it just a conversation that developed during the discussion?
 
Do you think you could have gone and beaten them to death with a hammer?

I would have killed hundreds of people already, if I had some assurance I wouldn't get caught.

But then again, I have highly psychopathic tendencies and anger management issues. The only thing stopping me is my own sense of self-preservation.

I suppose if it feels like you've reached the end of the road anyway, you just want to vent your rage.

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That being said, I do of course wish that this did not happen. If the worker got his money and the farmer was still alive, everything would still be peachy which is of course the ideal outcome.
 
That being said, I do of course wish that this did not happen. If the worker got his money and the farmer was still alive, everything would still be peachy which is of course the ideal outcome.

I wouldn't dismiss a misunderstanding on payment terms. It also highlights the danger of paying with physical cash. I would rather pay for my employer's bank accounts than pay them with cash.
 
Didn't do much history at school, did you? How do you think Europe conquered the world?

Says you who probably dropped out in std 6?
:rolleyes:
No wait perhaps you are still in school, this new education system with 30% pass rate......


No - but if I'm to use your train of thought: Black on white or black violence is crude and violent with hammers, etc.
And white on black or white violence is "normal" with guns and explosions and ****.

So show me where whites attack blacks like blacks are attacking whites.......will await the links to the articles

He's also forgotten about more recent history ala Hitler.

Nope, genocide then, same thing now

You know who would make a good couple, that chick who made south africans look like total and complete idiots on aljazeera and marine.

Susette or whatever, the one who is against the oppression of whites yet she isn't oppressed. I am not having a good day so i will refrain from going into it too much because this topic makes me rage like crazy when i see people marine operating in these threads.

There is not a single stat that shows whites are more likely to be brutally murdered, the stats show something totally different and perhaps people like marine and that susette women should pick up a newspaper that covers black on black crime to see the brutality of it but it won't change their whites are superior attitudes.

I know marine it's black on black brutality which is fine, you seem chilled with that. Stop racially dividing this country like that susette beeep beeep beeep beeping beep beep.
Sorry but what?
Stats? Right, you want to rely on stats from the ANC? :rolleyes: Um ok.
When did I say black on black brutality is ok? All I am saying is blacks or more brutal to whites and blacks as well.
I dont see whites doing what the blacks are doing.
You think that fact makes me racist? So be it.
 
another farm murder... :erm:

seems to me that most perps these days (for farm killings) are black? maybe im wrong. either way, good thing crime is on the decrease in south africa...

Nope thats a fact. And its almost always brutal barbaric acts.
Makes me sad to see racists in this thread... Crime is crime whether it's comitted by blacks or whites or pinks or yellows. That being said, hopefully the wife of that farmer will be ok with time.

FFS its not racist its fact. If that makes you think that people calling out against certain population groups that commit these crimes is racism then you dont know what you are talking about.
Are the perpetrators almost always black in farm attacks? Yes.
Does that make it racist to admit that? No
 
If whites went around butchering blacks with hammers, machine guns, pangas, knives, or whatever then what would you say ?
The fact of the matter is blacks are perpetrating these crimes and mainly in farm attacks its against whites and its almost always on a level of brutality that would make anyone sick to their stomach. Mainly against people that cannot defend themselves, elderly people.
What kind of sick animal beats someone to death with a hammer or tortures a person? You want to tell me there is not an extreme level of hate in these crimes?

Perhaps some of you should go and see these crime scenes first hand and then comment.
 
If whites went around butchering blacks with hammers, machine guns, pangas, knives, or whatever then what would you say ?
The fact of the matter is blacks are perpetrating these crimes and mainly in farm attacks its against whites and its almost always on a level of brutality that would make anyone sick to their stomach. Mainly against people that cannot defend themselves, elderly people.
What kind of sick animal beats someone to death with a hammer or tortures a person? You want to tell me there is not an extreme level of hate in these crimes?

Perhaps some of you should go and see these crime scenes first hand and then comment.

They stole cars and guns after a wage dispute, the scum that carried this out probably would have worked closer to home if their neighbors actually had anything of value. These guys target these people because they are isolated and usually with valuables on hand.
 
And they had hammers because it was probably their first time, they are good weapons. Now they have guns, I hope the community ups it's defenses or catch these guys soon.
 
You understand murdering someone because they owe you money thus rendering it impossible to ever get paid and you understand that murdering the person condemns you to life in prison.

You understand that? How is it possible to even grasp the concept of murdering someone who owes you money let alone understanding it?

Next year you will be one of the forumites of year candidates...
 



“They started beating Dan on the head with the hammers and as he cowered, one hit him hard on the back of the head with a monkey wrench. He groaned and slumped to the floor and they began to kick him. They kept shouting at him demanding money. He couldn’t speak properly because they had broken his jaw and he mumbled that we didn’t keep cash, but he would write them a cheque for R20 000,” Bucher said.

“They hit him again in the face with the hammer reducing it to a bloody pulp,” she said.

As Knight took his last breaths, the intruders ransacked the house and took anything of value.

Bucher was locked in a bathroom after her assailants had tried to suffocate her with a surgical glove.

“I climbed out of a window and ran around to Dan. They had beaten him so badly that his face was unrecognisable and one had hit him so hard with a wrench that his skull was fractured and part of his brain matter had spilled on to the carpet where he lay. I put my hand near his mouth and there was no breath and I knew he was gone,” she said.

Wow so this is normal crime in SA then...? Truly terrifying and infuriating on so many levels. I hate that the anc has such a pissy stance on crime in sa(talk big-do nothing). Instead of pumping money into law enforcement so that savages like this can be removed from the face of the earth permanently the money is spent on luxuries for the elite.

Condolences to this family.
 
Update: Police have recovered 2 vehicles,3 firearms and arrested 3 fusckers..not sure where but could be Bulwer after some leads yesterday.
 
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