No, that would apply to those people who claim, without a shred of evidence, that it is part of a campaign to wipe out white people. Usually the same people who think most victims of violence and murder in general are white.
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Farm Attacks
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etienne_marais
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Well I did not make the claim that there is an active campaign, although there are plenty examples of hate-speech against whites/farmers and the bloody president sings 'struggle' songs about machine guns and shooting Boers. Sometimes you don't need an active, organized campaign (or conspiracy for that matter), just like-minded idiots. Yet the point stands, the assumption was made that people who voice an opinion about farm attacks can be stereotyped and categorized.
The second part regarding demographics, I am and always have been of the opinion that of the 40 to 50 murders a day the majority of victims are black/non-white. I am also of the opinion that the perpetrators do not follow the pattern of the demographics and that the majority of them are black and proportionally extremely over-represented and also that the majority of the 40-50 murders a day are in fact black on black. This can not be proven because race is only relevant where it suits the agenda of the paradigm shift from nation-state centricism to integrationism/statism and race based statistics are thus not released. Yet the assumption that people who voice concerns about farm attacks automatically fall in the category of believing that most victims of violence/murder are white, is fallacious.
So why did you feel you have to post that explanation of to whom that stereotype applies to again ?
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Oh throw a pity party. The is no problem on reporting news or commenting on it, the issue is when people obsess on only one group of victims and have shared stupid/backward thoughts on the forum in the past. The #fees must fall sympathisers are called out on their bs, white race sympathisers on this thread will be called out on their bs too
etienne_marais
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Joburg farmer stabbed repeatedly during robbery
Johannesburg - A farmer was repeatedly stabbed during a robbery on his farm in the south of Johannesburg on Monday morning, paramedics said.
The man’s wife was also assaulted, Netcare 911 spokesperson Athlenda Mathe said.
The couple was found in a serious condition. The man was stabilised and taken to a local hospital in a critical condition.
Gauteng police could not immediately be reached for comment.
News24
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/joburg-farmer-stabbed-repeatedly-during-robbery-20161107
Johannesburg - A farmer was repeatedly stabbed during a robbery on his farm in the south of Johannesburg on Monday morning, paramedics said.
The man’s wife was also assaulted, Netcare 911 spokesperson Athlenda Mathe said.
The couple was found in a serious condition. The man was stabilised and taken to a local hospital in a critical condition.
Gauteng police could not immediately be reached for comment.
News24
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/joburg-farmer-stabbed-repeatedly-during-robbery-20161107
TysonRoux
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TheChamp
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Worker killings go to trial
FIVE farmers and a policeman accused of killing two farm workers will stand trial next year.
The six appeared in the Free State High Court sitting in the Parys Magistrate’s Court on Friday and their trial was postponed to May 2. It was set down to run until until May 26.
The six are Gert van der Westhuizen, 51, Anton Loggenberg, 49, police captain Hendrik Prinsloo, 46, Cornelius Loggenberg, 19, Lodewikus van der Westhuizen, 18, and Gert van Vuuren, 23. They are accused of assaulting farm workers Samuel Tjexa, 37, and Seun Tangashe, 27, on January 6 at Biessiebult farm outside Parys. They are all out on bail.
The two men were hunted down, caught, assaulted and left for dead after being accused of attempting to rob a farmer of R20 000 at gunpoint.
Tjexa succumbed to his injuries after being admitted at the Parys Provincial Hospital while Tangashe was declared dead on arrival at Pelonomi Hospital in Bloemfontein.
The men’s deaths caused an uproar in the sleepy town where whites and blacks were divided in and outside the court building during the court appearances by the accused.
Prosecutor Advocate Sandile Mthethwa told the court that the defence would use two advocates during the trial.
Kobus Burger, representing all the accused, said there were two matters that needed to be discussed regarding a possibility of trials within a trial.
“We are not anticipating that [a trial within a trial] because there are no pointing outs or confessions. It will also depend on who will be judge. There may be a trial within a trial when witnesses will be testifying on their statements. We will need to prove authenticity of some of the statements made by witnesses,” Burger said.
He said there was a document missing and asked the state to provide it before December 15.
He requested to be provided with three copies of photos relating to the case timeously.
“We will try that by December 15 when we respond to the defence [about the outstanding document], we will provide those photos,” Mthethwa said.
“We have records of the photos and they will be provided to the defence before February 3 next year.”
Friday’s court appearance was notable for the absence of demonstrations from various political parties outside the court, that had become a feature of previous appearances. Instead, only family members and the media were present in court.
http://www.pressreader.com/
FIVE farmers and a policeman accused of killing two farm workers will stand trial next year.
The six appeared in the Free State High Court sitting in the Parys Magistrate’s Court on Friday and their trial was postponed to May 2. It was set down to run until until May 26.
The six are Gert van der Westhuizen, 51, Anton Loggenberg, 49, police captain Hendrik Prinsloo, 46, Cornelius Loggenberg, 19, Lodewikus van der Westhuizen, 18, and Gert van Vuuren, 23. They are accused of assaulting farm workers Samuel Tjexa, 37, and Seun Tangashe, 27, on January 6 at Biessiebult farm outside Parys. They are all out on bail.
The two men were hunted down, caught, assaulted and left for dead after being accused of attempting to rob a farmer of R20 000 at gunpoint.
Tjexa succumbed to his injuries after being admitted at the Parys Provincial Hospital while Tangashe was declared dead on arrival at Pelonomi Hospital in Bloemfontein.
The men’s deaths caused an uproar in the sleepy town where whites and blacks were divided in and outside the court building during the court appearances by the accused.
Prosecutor Advocate Sandile Mthethwa told the court that the defence would use two advocates during the trial.
Kobus Burger, representing all the accused, said there were two matters that needed to be discussed regarding a possibility of trials within a trial.
“We are not anticipating that [a trial within a trial] because there are no pointing outs or confessions. It will also depend on who will be judge. There may be a trial within a trial when witnesses will be testifying on their statements. We will need to prove authenticity of some of the statements made by witnesses,” Burger said.
He said there was a document missing and asked the state to provide it before December 15.
He requested to be provided with three copies of photos relating to the case timeously.
“We will try that by December 15 when we respond to the defence [about the outstanding document], we will provide those photos,” Mthethwa said.
“We have records of the photos and they will be provided to the defence before February 3 next year.”
Friday’s court appearance was notable for the absence of demonstrations from various political parties outside the court, that had become a feature of previous appearances. Instead, only family members and the media were present in court.
http://www.pressreader.com/
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Yet people shut up very quickly when the same argument is used in terms of employment, wealth, housing, education. Those aren't on a 1:1 ratio either, but of course people would only give a toss because "murder" isn't equal. For that argument, women have an equal right to pissed off at men since men are the largest contributors to crime. genius.
Farm murder suspect nabbed after he shoots himself
Polokwane - A relative of the farmer killed at his smallholding near Thabazimbi on Friday has been arrested following a chase in which the suspect shot himself, Limpopo police have confirmed.
The 25-year-old man sustained a bullet to the head when officers cornered him and pulled him off the road in Rustenburg on Saturday morning, spokesperson Lieutenant-Colonel Moatshe Ngoepe said.
Police launched a manhunt for those involved in the murder of farmer Bertie Cilliers, 54, who was on Friday found dead at the Spitskop smallholding.
A tip-off was received that the suspect, understood to be Cilliers’ son-in-law, was seen in the Rustenburg area.
Officers pursued the man, who escaped when police tried to pull him over.
“He drove off at a high speed and a chase ensued along the Sun City road. When he was cornered and pulled off the road, he allegedly shot himself in the head with the firearm believed to be the one used during the farm attack,” Ngoepe said.
He was taken to hospital and is being treated under police guard.
The car he was driving is similar to the white VW Jetta seen near the murder scene on Friday.
The farmer’s bullet-riddled body was found by his son on the kitchen floor on Friday afternoon.
His Ford Ranger was found abandoned some kilometres from the farm.
Ngoepe said the investigation continues and the suspect would appear in the Thabazimbi Magistrate’s Court once he has recovered.
News24
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/farm-murder-suspect-nabbed-after-he-shoots-himself-20161203
Polokwane - A relative of the farmer killed at his smallholding near Thabazimbi on Friday has been arrested following a chase in which the suspect shot himself, Limpopo police have confirmed.
The 25-year-old man sustained a bullet to the head when officers cornered him and pulled him off the road in Rustenburg on Saturday morning, spokesperson Lieutenant-Colonel Moatshe Ngoepe said.
Police launched a manhunt for those involved in the murder of farmer Bertie Cilliers, 54, who was on Friday found dead at the Spitskop smallholding.
A tip-off was received that the suspect, understood to be Cilliers’ son-in-law, was seen in the Rustenburg area.
Officers pursued the man, who escaped when police tried to pull him over.
“He drove off at a high speed and a chase ensued along the Sun City road. When he was cornered and pulled off the road, he allegedly shot himself in the head with the firearm believed to be the one used during the farm attack,” Ngoepe said.
He was taken to hospital and is being treated under police guard.
The car he was driving is similar to the white VW Jetta seen near the murder scene on Friday.
The farmer’s bullet-riddled body was found by his son on the kitchen floor on Friday afternoon.
His Ford Ranger was found abandoned some kilometres from the farm.
Ngoepe said the investigation continues and the suspect would appear in the Thabazimbi Magistrate’s Court once he has recovered.
News24
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/farm-murder-suspect-nabbed-after-he-shoots-himself-20161203
genetic
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Wonder what the motive was...
supersunbird
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What Solidariteit and whomever feels strongly should do is assist farm people to live more securely,.Government aint gonna do ****, they too busy riding their gravy train. Yes, research the crims, find their MOs and plan on that.
3 firearms were stolen in this last case posted. They had the means to defend themselves, but the criminals were able to surprise them despite the early warning provided by the dogs.
So Solidariteit and whomever else should assist the farmers to get electric fencing and CCTV and security doors and such at as near cost price as possible and also offer training on being more security conscious and also assist in setting up farm/plot watches.
3 firearms were stolen in this last case posted. They had the means to defend themselves, but the criminals were able to surprise them despite the early warning provided by the dogs.
So Solidariteit and whomever else should assist the farmers to get electric fencing and CCTV and security doors and such at as near cost price as possible and also offer training on being more security conscious and also assist in setting up farm/plot watches.
Pitbull
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Our community of about 20 plots in close proximity to each other have radio and whatsapp contact. If ANYTHING was to happen the response time would be less than 2 minutes. We have had great success with this and our area is very quiet because of this. We also have a very good Sector Policing Forum for our rural area and amazing help from the police. Most of these people being attacked are either very old, or very secluded. Communities need to be more involved in keeping each other safe.
Exactly. Why do you chaps in SA have to police yourselves? You should pay your taxes so that the government can implement an effective police force! Just a thought....
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Oh please.
Everyone knows tax payers money is best spent to fill anc personnel / cadres' pockets, pursuing white racist nobodies and court cases to defend corruption. Keeping (all) citizens safe, maintenance and service delivery is not important.
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You're full of wisdoms aren't you?
