Fascist America, in 10 easy steps

[kilo39]

When these "protest" organizations brainwash 5 year olds, strap bombs to mentally challenged kids, hide their arms in amongst the population and purposely put them in the cross fire when are fighting the Israelis and amongst themselves we hear nothing from your ilk.

Ag please. Don't send me off to find documents showing equal from all sides!!! Do some work for a change!!

The Palestinians themselves are "ignoring" their own elections . Hence they a fighting and killing amongst themselves. No terrorists don't act because they have no other option. They flatly refuse the option that allows the situation to improve for them. That is recognizing Israel and her safety. They are so hell bent on her destruction from endless brainwashing that they are willing to go such extremes. If they spent as much energy on improving their own situation as they do on trying to destroy Israel things would be a lot better for them.

I realise "we" or "I" can have a simplistic view of the world: but please! where do you get your reality from?

On 9 September 1993, Arafat issued a press release stating that "the PLO recognizes the right of the State of Israel to exist in peace and security".

Numerous leaders within the PLO and the PA, including Yasser Arafat himself, have declared that the State of Israel has a permanent right to exist, and that the peace treaty with Israel is genuine
[source]

A letter from Arafat to US President Bill Clinton in 1998 listed the clauses concerned, and a meeting of the Palestine Central Committee approved that list. To remove all doubt the vote this time was held in a public meeting of PLO, PNC and PCC members which was televised worldwide and in the presence of none other than the President of the United States Bill Clinton in person, who arrived in the Gaza Strip for that specific purpose. Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu accepted this as the promised nullification.

As to the current fiasco: to all intents Abbas is corrupt and outvoted. I am not an expert but your diatribe is certainly drivel.

1) Accept the destruction of Israel and the hegemony of Islamic extremism over the world

Ya, right. Got to ask (beside the now ceasing of any peace) who of late has done the most killing (as usual?) Who are the real terrorists? Could it be YOU?!

Wars of aggression against Israel carried out by those that like today want her destruction. It's the same objective for the last 60 years. Unfortunately for those that strive for it, it has failed and continues to fail. While striving for this they have torn themselves apart and run themselves into the ground. Yet they still cling desperately to this goal that their ideology propagates. Hence they get more and more desperate. Those on the losing side always take the most drastic actions.

Statements of al-Qaeda recorded after 9/11 add weight to the U.S account of who was responsible for the attacks. In a 2004 video, apparently acknowledging responsibility for the attacks, bin Laden states that he was motivated by the 1982 Lebanon War, for which he held the U.S. partially responsible. In the video, bin Laden also claims that he wants to, "restore freedom to our nation," to "punish the aggressor in kind," and to inflict economic damage on America. He declared that a continuing objective of his holy war was to, "[bleed] America to the point of bankruptcy."[81] Bin Laden said, "We swore that America wouldn't live in security until we live it truly in Palestine. This showed the reality of America, which puts Israel's interest above its own people's interest. America won't get out of this crisis until it gets out of the Arabian Peninsula, and until it stops its support of Israel."
[source]

Oh dear. Now who shall I believe? You? Or our old buddy BL?

Israel has entered into an Orwellian world of inbred perceptions and unanalyzed assumptions. These appear to make sense from inside Israeli society (and the Zionist community worldwide as well), but from the outside seem to be out of touch with reality. The inside "reality" is dominated by the obsessive concept of fortress Israel *that is Israel against the world. This mental paradigm, which ascribes all criticism of Israeli behavior to eternal anti-Semitism, is assimilated from childhood, taught to you by your family and your teachers at school. It is a belief commonly shared, and thus reinforced, by your neighbors, your coworkers, the newspapers, television and radio, and those with whom you do your military service (some of the army induction ceremonies are held at site of the 73 CE mass suicide of Jewish Zealots at Masada). It is a constant part of your consciousness and defines patriotic thought.
Welcome to Their Nightmare

There is never mention that, just as the rise of Hamas was a response to the atrocities and humiliations the Palestinians have suffered for half a century, so Hezbollah was formed only as a defence against Ariel Sharon's murderous invasion of Lebanon in 1982 which left 22,000 people dead. There is never mention that Israel intervenes at will, illegally and brutally, in the remaining 22 per cent of historic Palestine, having demolished 11,000 homes and walled off people from their farmlands, and families, and hospitals, and schools. There is never mention that the threat to Israel's existence is a canard, and the true enemy of its people is not the Arabs, but Zionism and an imperial America [/I]that guarantees the Jewish state as the antithesis of humane Judaism.
Empire and Israel

Once again, who should I believe? You?

And: according to your version of history there is no state of Palestine. What does that say of the existence of Israel?

(this 10 000 character limit is driving me crazy!)

 

[LoneGunman]

south africa is well under way towards this:

1. Invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy
Racism. Apartheid. 'People who want a return to the racist past'

2. Create a gulag

Individual citizens have turned their own homes into the gulags. Complete with razor wire, electric fences, and bars on windows

3. Develop a thug caste

Note the soft treatment of criminals. The opening of borders to neighboring countries immigrants. The emptying of jails. The widespread civil unrest that prevents all citizens from strolling anywhere they want, except in areas under armed guard.

4. Set up an internal surveillance system

In place.

5. Harass citizens' groups

Speak to any free-speech focused law groups. The Government is terrified
of the Landless Peoples Movement, and has been doing serious crackdowns on this and any other groups which spontaneously emerge.


6. Engage in arbitrary detention and release

The ANC Government is doing this. Speak to any lawyers engaged in SA censorship issues and/or civil rights issues.

7. Target key individuals

The ANC Government is doing this. Speak to any lawyers engaged in SA censorship issues and/or civil rights issues.

8. Control the press

Almost entirely controlled. There may look like multiple newspapers and magazines in SA - but they're ALL created by perhaps as few as 4 different corporations. The only newspaper that's vaguely independent, is the Mail and Guardian. And thus, this explains the many court cases the Government has instituted against them, since 1994.

9. Dissent equals treason

In place and established. Except in SA - treason is not used as a 'reason' - instead 'racism', being smeared as a 'racist' or 'wanting a return to Apartheid' take the place of the charge of 'treason'.

10. Suspend the rule of law

When did you last see the Government enact laws which get in the way of
politicians profit-making? Therefore, what law remains in SA, hangs by a very thin thread.

sweet dreams

 

[kilo39]

Hey LG. You're beginning to sound like "IamCanadian."

Can we please keep it germane to the thread (bad enough!)

(would have thought you would welcome an Anti-GB thread without a rant on SA)

 

[Xarog]

*sigh*

I've moved on but alas you haven't . I've started a debate with sabagamma but here you are going on and on.

So you ask me questions that I'm not supposed to answer?

You don't attack the view but the poster as well as your posts show and doesn't matter how many times you might claim otherwise.

Au contraire. I give YOU a taste of your own medicine, but that's the lone exception to the rule.

I'm sure you won't here much out of the posse but generally people don't bother with you .

Firstly, a persecution complex really doesn't suit you. Secondly, my posts regularly see reponses when they are making general points on a subject instead of responding to something specific that someone already said (in which case the person I'm responding to usually responds.)

Odd then by your rambling of my "spewed rubbish" you bother to keep claiming that I "insult you". Frankly I don't care whether you insult me but this sudden offense when you are on the receiving end is rather sad.

I didn't claim you were insulting me specifically. I said you insult people you believe to hold an opposing view as a matter of course, and those are again, VERY different from each other.

Taking me to task? Why bother? Don't I just "spew rubbish" Why the need?

To prevent it from spreading I suppose.

I never said my view was superior just like I don't recall telling others to shut up.

No, it just oozes from every snide or sarcastic remark you make. "Bilary Clinton ", anyone? You're constantly demeaning the 'other side' by calling them moonbats or similar and you honestly think that does NOT imply a belief that your own position is superior?

Unlike you of course.

Proof, please.

But you reply to basically everything I post on this subject . Until of course you get muddled and can't find links to back up your claims

You just keep telling yourself that, Alan. You never know, maybe it will become true if you want it hard enough.

 

[nocilah]

the diference between muslim extremist states and the united slaves of america:

Muslims terrorists:

Our agenda is to blow your fsking country to ****.

They are clear, concise and truthful about their agenda

USA:
What POW camps... us the great providers of freedom? NEVER?

The on country is upfront about their agenda, the other one is so filled with bullsh1t that even south africans find it in their mornonic minds to defend the star spangled banner.

get real! USA are as corrupt as the west can get.

Just cuz they made google and mickey mouse does not mean they are cool.

Yeah cooler then the muslim terrorists, but they are a fool to themselves.

ie. fsck america!

 

[Xarog]

Why reply? I'm just "spewing rubbish" yet here again you reply.

Well now, not replying to a question is rude, isn't it?

First you complain that I don't reply, and now you're whining because I *do* reply. Will you PLEASE make up your mind already and stick to it?

As I've said repeatedly. People can see from the posts who insulted who first, who doesn't back up claims, what supposed "insults" were used, who replies to whom on almost every occasion blah, blah, on and on.

Can't have your cake and eat it. You were the one who started this tangent when you said :

What like troll, racist, stupid and childish isn't. I got tired of seeing others and myself being subjected to that constantly so all I did was return the favour. As expected that didn't go down to well . Surely it isn't to much to ask that one also takes a bit of what they dish out.

So really, who's getting muddled? You can't make up your mind from one post to the next.

You're the one who drags out the history of old threads, who always harps on previous posts and makes constant mention of it to 'inform the audience', and to defend it thus when you're called on your behaviour. Your hypocrisy is astounding.

It's there for everybody to see and continuously claiming otherwise won't change it.

So then why do you make the attempt?

But I'll wait for the reply that always comes to counter the "rubbish" I "spew" that you for some reason always feel the need to do

Hope I didn't keep you waiting too long.

 

[Xarog]

I wasn't whining but merely pointing out that you didn't back up your claims . Not your obsession with carrying on with this game of yours like you are doing now which has nothing to do with any thread on this forum.

Funny how you're guilty of pointing out things that you yourself are guilty of in this very thread. Still waiting for your source for the claims that Palestinians caused their destitution through their hostility to Israel. Unless you want to admit that you have no interest in providing such a source.

If you posted those links then I wouldn't bring it up when you accuse me of not debating facts and only insulting you. I mean really

Ooooh, so another Tu Quoque to add to the list then. Impressive. And just so we're clear : how do you post links proving the absence of evidence? I guess that adds "proving a negative" to the list of debating fallacies.

But here you are still posting away directing it all at me yet there is no reason for you to do so because I "spew rubbish"

Your spurious reasoning, not mine. Rubbish can still be dangerous, even though it's rubbish.

in fact I don't think the word Israel or Palestinians nevermind fascist has been mentioned by you in this thread for quite a while.

Too bad. As you're wont to do, it means you're going to ignore everything that has been said only to repeat it a month or two down the line when you want to put Israel on a pillar of virtue again. Guess I'll have to post all those links on the cluster bombs THEN, too.

The post I recently made replied to points made by a fellow forumite about the issues in the thread have been completely ignored. You only harp on about this. It really gives the impression that you ignore the points and zero in on the niggle. Perfectly understandable though.

That's because you're again debating the subject with reference to your imaginary reality where 'liberals' exist. Unless there is some semblance of a common reality, any attempt at communication is a waste of time.

Though, the fact that you want me to stop responding, and on the other hand get upset when I *don't* respond is quite interesting.

Again you get muddled. You insult and I return the favour then for some reason you take offence.

I thought the posts spoke for themselves?

I guess obviously they need your 'help' to speak all of the sudden.

And you call ME muddled.

Btw, if I started with the insults, why did I single you out? why has no one else piped up that I insulted them? How come a large portion of the community considers you to be ascerbic, and yet you're the only one who's accused me of anything similar?

Lastly, have you gone back to peering into crystal balls to read minds? You haven't offended me in the least, and I'm rather curious as to how you came to that conclusion.

 

[Xarog]

Patience. I've already got the sources don't worry about that. I've also got the replies to your earlier posts. However I'm still busy sorting out my replies to kilo. If I don't post them all at once I will never get around to it. As you can see you're still going on and on and on about this obsession of yours.

It's been 4 months now. If you had any intention of replying you would have done so by now.

So now their is an "absence of evidence" but its' still true Bwahahahahaha add to it that there is real evidence proving otherwise but that doesn't count because you say so

Oh my.

No. In the absence of evidence, the negative is assumed to be true. If the positive evidence presented is shown to be of a doubtful nature, then it must be discarded and the negative must again be assumed to be true. That you even asked for links proving the negative was the fallacy, and no matter how you try and twist it, it was still fallacious.

But you see you getting muddled again. There is a difference between backing up your claims and a general whining constantly about "insults". But hey all you say is the "truth" even if there is an "absence of evidence".

You're the one getting muddled. You've even ducked out of this thread, totally ignoring the posts that were about the 'facts' and instead you're focusing on point scoring. By all means, go back to the Israel debate, I'd welcome the change. I'd also welcome you finding sources to back up your claims regarding the financial situation of the Palestinians.

It's all real clear. You accuse me of just "spewing rubbish" that you fell the need to constantly reply to because other people are to stupid to realise it and they need to rely on your enlightenment to guide them in the right direction. You say I just insult without the facts because you refuse to accept the links and proof but then you don't feel the need to back up your claims because you "don't bother" or there is a "absence of evidence"

The one example you point out was simply me giving you a taste of your own medicine; do you want me to show all the times where you ran from a thread or made wild assertion which you didn't provide sources for while I did the opposite? The discussion in THIS thread is again the perfect example of what TYPICALLY happens; it's rather ironic how much it gets to you when someone does the same to you.

So here I have the proof and you don't.

Sorry, I must have missed where you linked to your proof regarding the Palestinian financial situation.

But that's fine because you don't bother to accept my proof by deluding yourself that I only insult and hence don't provide links while for you it's acceptable not to provide links because of an "absence of evidence". So that's how you always provide the truth.

Insulting and ad-hominem arguments are two very different things. I didn't accuse you of just insulting. Hell, that's the third time you've blurred the lines between two vastly different things today. Would be nice if you could stop that.

Unbelievable. Whoever needs to provide a link again. Just claim an "absence of evidence" and ignore whatever anyone else posts.

That was merely replying to your demand to post links proving the absence of evidence; showing your links to be untrustworthy was done seperately.

Because nobody feels the need to whine like you do. It's normally the same people insulting. Others aren't bothered about that. They just don't return the favour. I do. Now because I do you are all whining because you can't take your own medicine.

And this time you're responding to?

This really is getting long the tooth. You really have the need to reaffirm it don’t you. But as I said it's all in the previous posts Nothing is gonna change that.

So why do you keep on about the contents of the previous posts if you believe that? You SAY it's all there but your behaviour says something else entirely.

But hey you'll need the final word as always. Pity we weren't debating world happenings because then I'd just wait until you "don’t bother" finding links although now you just gonna start claiming "absence of evidence"

Yeah, funny how I had the last word on the political debate here too. I guess you got tired of waiting for me to not bother or something?

 

[Xarog]

You made the claim that ElBaradei was satisfied with Iran. It's there in the thread. I asked you to prove it. You replied that you "didn't bother" looking it up.

You made the claim that the Palestinians caused their own destitution. Where's your link?

Where's your source for the claim that Iran is undermining the US in Iraq through the Shia? (Which is still patently wrong; the Iranians happen to be funding one of the pro-US Shia faction against the other Shia and Sunni factions).

Where's your source for the claim that Ayatollah's martyr themselves?

Where's your source for the claim that Kim isn't a communist?

Where's your source for the claim that Hezbollah specifically targetted civilians with bearing laden bombs?

Where's your source that the sole purpose of Hamas is Israel's destruction?

Need I go on?

You'll get your sources when you start playing fair. I told you that much in that thread, and you've been bleating about it ever since.

I claimed he was not satisfied and backed that up with proof in a link. Then you outrageously claimed that the links were irrelevant because they were over a year old. So I asked if you had proof of him saying what you claimed at a more recent time. You could not supply that nevermind at any time. Hence you could not prove your claim because he never said it.

Hardly outrageous; alot can happen in a year.

Even then I supplied an up to date link not a day old at the time absolutely proving my claim and you disappeared .

Oh, so it's NOT ok when someone does that?

In that case : http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=62528

I'm still waiting. And besides, Kilo did a nice job in my place regardless.

So their I have not one but many links to the proof over a long period of time right up to the present at the that time. Yet you had nothing, squat, nought, zero but still you won't accept it.

Geeeez, you sure don't like it when someone throws your own behaviour back in your face.

Now you come with you can't prove a negative because of an "absence of evidence'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_proof
http://www2.sunysuffolk.edu/pecorip...ER_5_ARGUMENTS_EXPERIENCE/Burden-of-Proof.htm

Get it yet?

Can you not admit you were wrong? Not even in this one particular case. We have to go around and around in circles.

Et tu, Brute. You show me where you admitted wrong about something in one of our debates. Go ahead, I'm waiting.

Edit : And actually, you can re-read this post : http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showpost.php?p=875487&postcount=171

A clear example of me admitting I was mistaken. And what did I get for my troubles? You constantly claiming that I get muddled. Really, how you can expect anyone to admit that they're ever wrong when you take every opportunity to throw it in their face beggars belief.

 

[Amerikanse]

Folks, these are important issues, but...

Arguing on the Interweb is like the special Olympics...

















































Cuz even if you win...you're still retarded.

 

[mancombseepgood]

the diference between muslim extremist states and the united slaves of america:

Muslims terrorists:

Our agenda is to blow your fsking country to ****.

They are clear, concise and truthful about their agenda

USA:
What POW camps... us the great providers of freedom? NEVER?

The on country is upfront about their agenda, the other one is so filled with bullsh1t that even south africans find it in their mornonic minds to defend the star spangled banner.

get real! USA are as corrupt as the west can get.

Just cuz they made google and mickey mouse does not mean they are cool.

Yeah cooler then the muslim terrorists, but they are a fool to themselves.

ie. fsck america!

Yeah - lol - and with attiude like that, i bet they're thankful you aren't american

 

[kilo39]

Ay LG: just a quick note (apologies for jumping down your throat)

and got to say (in review) agree on the SA sentiments (though unsure how you can make them regards the newspapers: certainly IOL seems to still be publishing 'the truth?')

 

[kilo39]

I'll happily answer you claims once you do mine because your whole argument hinges on it.

Which claims were those exactly? (The ones shouted in red that were an assault on the eyes?) Sorry didn't read those (will maybe go back and find them.) Or what claims exactly (so we can debunk them here?)

 

[kilo39]

Until of course you get muddled and can't find links to back up your claims

I wasn't whining but merely pointing out that you didn't back up your claims

You see you don't stop. Heckle, heckle, heckle
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You still believe your claims in the Iran thread that the IAEA doesn't refer countries to the U.N SC and ElBaradei is satisfied with Iran. I disagreed and posted links to back it up but you refused to believe it sighting the date of the link for the later after initially claiming that you "didn't bother" backing up your claim. So I posted a more recent link barely a day old backing up my claim and you disappeared . Still to this day you haven't posted a link for either of those claims. Yet you refute my claims - and I post drivel

On and On....

You made the claim that ElBaradei was satisfied with Iran. It's there in the thread. I asked you to prove it. You replied that you "didn't bother" looking it up.

I claimed he was not satisfied and backed that up with proof in a link. Then you outrageously claimed that the links were irrelevant because they were over a year old. So I asked if you had proof of him saying what you claimed at a more recent time. You could not supply that nevermind at any time. Hence you could not prove your claim because he never said it.

///ooh ya, those claims!: of the infamous China Daily and the long lost mystery post.

That you repeat incessantly!! But you tell us 'we' are heckling.

Some history: there was a link posted ('I am sure' by Xarog) indisputably 'proving' Iran did/has done no harm (or has no ill intentions.) I have searched for that link but unfound.

But here is a good substitute that says the same thing.

Iran's atomic defiance sets it apart: IAEA chief
By Mark Heinrich and Karin Strohecker
Reuters

Mar 5, 2007 — VIENNA (Reuters) - Iran's persistent failure to clear up concerns about its nuclear activities after concealing them for almost 20 years sets it apart from all other nations, the U.N. atomic watchdog chief said on Monday.
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"Iran's verification case is sui generis (one of a kind)," Mohamed ElBaradei, director of the International Atomic Energy Agency, said in opening remarks to a gathering of the IAEA's 35-nation board of governors.
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Iran rejects Western suspicions that it is trying to master nuclear bomb technology under the cover of a civilian atomic energy program, saying it only wants to generate electricity.

Tehran has also complained of unfair treatment, noting the IAEA has found no hard evidence of covert bomb making efforts. It has characterized sanctions as a U.S.-led campaign to stunt its economic development and topple its government.

"We have not seen concrete proof of diversion of nuclear material, nor the industrial capacity to produce weapons-usable nuclear material, which is an important consideration in assessing the risk," said ElBaradei.

"But quite a few uncertainties remain about experiments, procurements and other activities …"

And before the kneejerk: relates to IAEA arm bending by India (remember correctly?)

 

[kilo39]

Ja, admit your defeat especially as my post directly above yours dated March 05, 07 a quote by ElBaradei.

""We have not seen concrete proof of diversion of nuclear material, nor the industrial capacity to produce weapons-usable nuclear material, which is an important consideration in assessing the risk," said ElBaradei."

(so keep on posting your fascist spew on your other pet threads, seems you're the only one noticing.)

(and probably if I went through this thread it would be you who derailed it. I mean, how come we are 'talking' ElBaradei.)

There are deeper issues at play: and lying and false wars should not be part of it. We do not have the time for the bullsh#t.

Plus we have heard from ElBaradei many times out his own mouth that he "is not satisfied" But hey that doesn't count does it.

No, it doesn't count: 'cause it is a lie. Otherwise post the relevant link.

And no, "International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War," doesn't really cut it.

Neither does "Arizona Republic" (whatever) or "Netherlands Info Services." I mean where do you find them in your rabid justification of lies, and racism?

 

[kilo39]

Yeah sure

Who ever posts last wins

If you check back, me posting "rubbish" was not the topic of the thread

Bwahahaha

I did post a link . Xarog on the other hand did not . I guess you're saying he lied.

* Damn I get dragged into it again *

No. You now saying "I" lied (as I saw the link.) If you posted a link then you should be able to post it again (or find it.) So off you go then!

And mentioning lying: it is quite clear who are the liars here, and the weight of evidence is definitely against 'them.'

(oh, but then you don't read the news do you?)

For the weight of evidence that GB is a liar, and a fraud, and imposing fascist principles on the american constitution (read my sig.)

 

[Xarog]

Thanks for the posts Kilo, they are very useful.

Not only do you get to prove that I was right about my claims in that thread (and thus an apology would be wrong), but I also still get to beat Alan at his own game.

And for the record, all those unproven assertions that I used as counterexamples were made before I finally started playing the evasion game too.

 

[kilo39]

*ahhh gotta stop *

Ah, why not just acknowledge the liars (and your endorsement makes you one!)

 

[alma-tadema]

What's there to say. I'm confident most people who read the post will have a little chuckle .

But since you insist.

Invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy

"invoke" yeah right . Islamic extremism is at war with the whole "western world". From U.S to Europe to Australia even with Russia, Israel and in places like Indonesia. They have made their intentions quite clear and standing up to that and calling it what it is, is it not invoking it. They are coming anyway whether you like it or not and groveling appeasment isn't going to help.

Create a gulag

What gulag. Gitmo is a prisoner of war camp. I don't see Democrats sitting in Gitmo nor any moonbats. It's not a 5 star hotel and rightfully so.

Develop a thug caste

What thugs? Every country has citizens and politicians who think they are above the law. Some manage to get away most don't in the "western countries".


Set up an internal surveillance system

So? There happens to be terrorists who want to kill large amounts of America's citizens. But they must be allowed to conduct their build up and operations with impunity. Pity the poor law abiding citizens who lose their lives because some extremist's "right" to do what they please is being infringed upon.


Harass citizens' groups

Bwahahahaha

C'mon you can't be serious.

The police state of America


Engage in arbitrary detention and release

*sigh*

They just pluck any Tom, Dick or Harry off the street


Target key individuals

Yeah like terrorists.

Control the press

Like CBS, CNN, Washinton Post and NewYork Times are all Whitehouse controlled


Dissent equals treason

That's why the Dems, various flaming moonbat bloggers and Hollywood celebs are all sitting in the "gulag" right now.


Suspend the rule of law

The laws during peace normally aren't sufficient during a period of war


*sigh*

Could you imagine if this was the 30's or during WW2. The Guardian and co would be doing their nut and saying pretty much the same thing

They forget to add: 11. Have plenty of rationalizers and apologist too insist that all these steps are necessary for "freedom".

Now it is debatable if all or even some of these things is happening in america, except for step 11, just see our friend above...

 

[noxibox]

Target key individuals

Yeah like terrorists.

Exactly like terrorists.