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The sub-heading: `The numbers tick upwards but are still well down on 2001.' comes as a rider.
http://www.moneyweb.co.za/mw/view/mw/en/page62093?oid=161520&sn=Detail

The number of South Africans emigrating to Australia last year rose by 10% but still fell short by 35% from the highs established in 2002 and 2003.

Last year 4 293 South Africans successfully applied for permanent residence in Australia, compared to 3 895 the previous year.

According to Elizabeth Campbell of the Australian High Commission some 90% of South Africans applying for visas are successful.

As proof of a brain drain, the greatest number of successful South Africans in the skills stream fall into what the embassy classes as "science, engineering and related associate professionals" - 174 last year and more than 1 500 in a decade.

No fewer than 169 "educational professionals" left for Oz last year. The next biggest category was "business and information professionals" - accountants, auditors and computing professionals, whose numbers topped 200. We lost 47 medical practitioners, 33 health professionals and 97 nursing sisters down under last year.
 
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SA must be getting empty.

There is a huge wave at the moment of south Africans leaving. I have bumped into so many Saffas here in NZ who have all only arrived in the last couple of months. AUS may be a different, probably because there is so much red tape these days for south africans getting into AUS.
 
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Where are you in NZ? My wife and I are looking at OZ and NZ, and we are probably leaning more towards NZ now because it is easier. How are you finding the general climate?
 
I am in wellington, south of the north island. NZ is definitely much easier to get into than AUS, especially if you don't have a degree. Once u have NZ citizenship, u can move and work between the 2 countries as u wish.

Honestly the climate is not great, wellington is a very windy town, and it puts cape town to shame. Todays high was 14 with a low of 9, it never goes over 16 in winter. In summer it never gets much hotter than 22. But the city has lots of character, the people are nice and its probably one of the safest cities to live in the world. So those factors sort of make up for the climate, some days i would trade a high wall with electric fence for better climate anyway.
 
I'm investigating NZ and Oz as well ... but I'm just picking up a little bit of work experience first ... one of the guys working with me left for NZ last month ...
 
Honestly the climate is not great, wellington is a very windy town, and it puts cape town to shame. Todays high was 14 with a low of 9, it never goes over 16 in winter. In summer it never gets much hotter than 22. But the city has lots of character, the people are nice and its probably one of the safest cities to live in the world. So those factors sort of make up for the climate, some days i would trade a high wall with electric fence for better climate anyway.

ug, that puts me of New Zealand forever... It sounds very English to me..

I find sunshine hugely important to enjoying a happy life...
 
Believe it or not, the pomps here love the weather! They think its great and say its warm!!!

Yeah bright bunch they are :rolleyes:

I really have no intentions of living anywhere with bad* weather ever again.

I wanna go live somewhere that has tornado's or Hurricanes :D

*bad = rainy, cloudy, cold or windy....
 
4,000 People A Week Trying To Leave Uk

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/15642/4,000-people-a-week-trying-to-leave-UK

BRITAIN is facing a mass exodus of people looking to escape the crime and grime of modern living.

The country’s biggest foreign visa consultancy firm has revealed that applications have soared in the last seven months by 80 per cent to almost 4,000 a week. Ten years ago the figure was just 300 a week.

Most people are relocating within the Commonwealth – in Australia, Canada and South Africa. They are almost all young professionals and skilled workers aged 20-40.
 
BRITAIN is facing a mass exodus of people looking to escape the crime and grime of modern living.

(1)The country’s biggest foreign visa consultancy firm has revealed that applications have soared in the last seven months by 80 per cent to almost 4,000 a week. Ten years ago the figure was just 300 a week.

(2)Most people are relocating within the Commonwealth – in Australia, Canada and South Africa. They are almost all young professionals and skilled workers aged 20-40.

(1) That wasn't named
(2) Strange - I thought france, spain, italy, Greece and all are much cheaper to places to live than the UK :-)

But then, the brits b1tch and moan about anything ... If the sun shines its too hot (ad nauseum) They complain about free medical, free education free anything..


But then, they dont mention that its mainly people that have got to the UK from the east, waited 5 years to get Citizenship and now can move easily.

“Ironically, one of the main reasons for leaving is the overstretch of services due to increasing immigration into the UK. People are looking for the better standard of living offered by other countries, as even the most idyllic villages in Britain are under pressure from rising populations.
 
The medical and education may be free but it is terrible and you have no choice...

Sorry just had to put that in there :), it's the main reason I don't live in the UK anymore
 
(1) That wasn't named
(2) Strange - I thought france, spain, italy, Greece and all are much cheaper to places to live than the UK :-)

But then, the brits b1tch and moan about anything ... If the sun shines its too hot (ad nauseum) They complain about free medical, free education free anything..


But then, they dont mention that its mainly people that have got to the UK from the east, waited 5 years to get Citizenship and now can move easily.

In any event, it is young skilled people who are leaving, and if you read the comments on the page, it seems that people all over the world are also complaining of the same, migration is a global phenomena, the grass always seems greener, and so if people can move they will
 
BRITAIN is facing a mass exodus of people looking to escape the crime and grime of modern living.

Most people are relocating within the Commonwealth – in Australia, Canada and South Africa.

Geez how bad must the crime be there to come to South Africa. :D :D :D
 
In any event, it is young skilled people who are leaving, and if you read the comments on the page, it seems that people all over the world are also complaining of the same, migration is a global phenomena, the grass always seems greener, and so if people can move they will

I feel its not about emigrating.. its about the consolidation of the international workforce . If you have the opportunity to work in a foreign culture and land for a while, then seize the moment! I would go for it.

Just the crime in london is horrible... one shooting every month! :(
 
You can always go private.... though you can end up bankrupting yourself (there is a sad-but-funny column in the Daily Torygraph called `Posh but Poor' about a couple skimping at every turn in order to afford school fees).

Scarily true, I ended up paying for doctors appointments at "The Portland Hospital" because the NHS was so crap.

200 pound for a checkup... ouch...

The only reason my daughter was born in an NHS hospital is because I didn't have 12 000 pounds for the birth.,.. talk about no middle ground..

Anyway back on topic, I remember when I worked there every single english person in our department wanted to leave the country. Yet none of them ever did? Maybe that fear has now dwindled and people are doing a runner?
 
A bit like a lot of South Africans I know, you always hear them saying, no Im leaving, its Oz for me or, if it gets any worse im going to NZ, but where are they, still here
 
Came accross this:

http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,22430548-2761,00.html

SOUTH Africans are to be recruited to fill council jobs in WA as statewide skills shortages threaten to decimate local government services.

Mr Mitchell said councils taking part in the South African recruitment drive would pay success fees of about $4000 for every vacancy filled but considered it well worth the money.

The association gave a shopping list of 80 jobs to recruiters, who will travel this week to South Africa hunting for town planners, engineers, accountants and environmental health officers.

Western Australia's record low unemployment rate of 3.1 per cent is causing problems for the state Government, which has more than 900 vacancies advertised. Last month alone, more than 3300 new jobs were created in the state.

Police have been forced to recruit overseas to cope with a shortfall of about 120 officers. The force's recent recruitment drive in South Africa attracted about 300 applications, which are now being worked through.
 
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