Fibre and Load Shedding

Geoff.D said:
Post and we will be able to point you in the right direction as to where you can get a suitable battery backup supply similar to that used for alarms systems.
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Lets say, for arguments sake, it is 9V 1A and 12V 1A - would love to hear your recommendations?
 
Being load shed for 2nd time today. FFS.
At least internet is up ( Vumatel) during load shedding. Something to keep kids busy. UPS doing its thing
 
Hooked up my ont and router to my mecer 1200 Inverter last night. Ran fine, today as well. Only issue is the batteries didn't get a chance to fully charge after having load shedding so much sigh. Hopefully I can get at least 18 hours or so charging
 
Lupus said:
Hooked up my ont and router to my mecer 1200 Inverter last night. Ran fine, today as well. Only issue is the batteries didn't get a chance to fully charge after having load shedding so much sigh. Hopefully I can get at least 18 hours or so charging
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Probably not going to happen. Stage 2 loadshedding throughout the night then Stage 4 again from 8am tomorrow.
 
cavedog said:
Probably not going to happen. Stage 2 loadshedding throughout the night then Stage 4 again from 8am tomorrow.
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Yeah luckily we had break for a bit. But the batteries still need a good few hours.
 
Openserve has been great. My 200Mbps fibre line stays on during loadshedding no problem and we got 3 times yesterday.
 
Geoff.D said:
What do you mean it did not work for them?
The issue is presumably, that during load shedding the ONT/ONU and router power is just one element in the chain that may require power.
It depends on precisely what technology has been deployed, and where any active points are. If there are only two (your home and the central node0, then only those two points will require power backup. BUT if there are street cabinets somewhere else that also require power, then that could be the point that determines how long the service is up for.
But without the suppliers telling you what is for what, you could go to lots of trouble to back up your end only to find that you still don't have service when the power fails in your area.
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The ONT remained connected, but they had no internet access
 
So my experience with Vumatel &Vox is that the Fibre-Wifi is showing disabled 1hr after a load shed outage. During load shedding if I plug equipment into my off grid backup supply it's good. I also have to constantly renter passwords onto iPad as it seems to "forget' the wifi network. My neighbour with ADSL is experiencing the joy of not upgrading to fibre...
 
if you 're on a GPON network the chances are your link will go down after a couple of hours.
The head-end (POP) that your ONT connects to - runs on batteries during a power failure.
Almost all GPON POP's are in street-side cabinets without generators.



Active Ethernet on the other hand has only patch panels & splice trays in the street cabinets.
These in-turn feed back to a "room" where the active equipment is stored. mostly centralized, mostly generator backed up.
 
Vumatel in my area is covered, my router and ont plug into my old Inverter battery setup and I've got internet the whole time.
 
Geoff.D said:
There are a few threads on the forum already about this issue.
Forget the UPS solutions!. Get a proper DC backup power supply which switches in and connects to a battery backup when the power goes off. Why the DC to AC conversion to feed an AC power supply to convert back to DC to feed the devices? A simple DC - DC conversion from 12V to whatever the router needs is by far the better solution.
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Geoff,

Do you have any product suggestions?

I have a router (18W) and a CPE (6W).

Thanks.
 
Sorry no I don't really. There are so many solutions going around at the moment, none of which really make much senes to me. Possible the Geewiz products mentioned previously are so far the better of all of them. There is another thread where a couple of solutions have been used by others. Avoid anything that involves a simple inverter and a battery where you have to use a separate charger and remember to disconnect the load before applying the charger. the hassles will drive you crazy.
I will add to this post one especially interesting unit that approaches what I would think is the ideal unit for powering small devcies, provided you don't overload it.
What does your fibre provider have to say about alt power solutions? Check with them, they may just already have a recommendation.

See this thread: https://mybroadband.co.za/forum/threads/router-battery-backup.993476/
Especially post number # 203, 206, 207, 208, 221
https://www.geewiz.co.za/ups/68269-...-power-bank-supply-b315-b618-cctv-router.html

These solutions are simple and easy to install and quite flexible, one of each device.
Also approach @PUP Backup . He is in a position to make something up for you.
 
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@Geoff.D,

Possible the Geewiz products mentioned previously are so far the better of all of them.
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They look useful, but there's no stock. Also, I would probably have to buy two (perhaps 1x 1230mAh model [CPE], and 1x 1850mAh model [router]).

There is another thread where a couple of solutions have been used by others.
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Yep, I've read some of it.

Avoid anything that involves a simple inverter and a battery where you have to use a separate charger ...
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Agreed.

I will add to this post one especially interesting unit that approaches what I would think is the ideal unit for powering small devcies
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Which one are you referring to here? The 3700mAh GeeWiz unit?

What does your fibre provider have to say about alt power solutions?
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I'm going to send them an email now.

Thanks!
 
What does your fibre provider have to say about alt power solutions?
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Frogfoot recommended a UPS (not a specific model or anything). I still think that the mini UPSs are a better solution (depending on the price) ... at least they should be less noisy. :)
 
There are two basic approaches:
1., A centralised large system for back up power.
2. A device-specific small system customised for the device. This is my recommendation for most non-techie persons. Don't make things complicated. One backup per device or, if all the devices are at the same location a combined system for the ONT and the immediate router, and a co-located AP

My respect for Frogfoot has just taken a nose-dive! That is a terrible response for a company wanting to provide fibre infrastructure. It is frankly disgusting.
 
I am just about to get fibre from Openserve and need to know what happens to the normal landline phones when the power goes off. As I understand it with the copper landline the power to work the phone comes down the copper line, so even during loadshedding the phones still work. I believe that when I get fibre the copper landline will be removed and the phone then plugs into the fibre box. Does this mean no electricity, no phones?
 
Shamus said:
I am just about to get fibre from Openserve and need to know what happens to the normal landline phones when the power goes off. As I understand it with the copper landline the power to work the phone comes down the copper line, so even during loadshedding the phones still work. I believe that when I get fibre the copper landline will be removed and the phone then plugs into the fibre box. Does this mean no electricity, no phones?
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Yes
 
Shamus said:
I am just about to get fibre from Openserve and need to know what happens to the normal landline phones when the power goes off. As I understand it with the copper landline the power to work the phone comes down the copper line, so even during loadshedding the phones still work. I believe that when I get fibre the copper landline will be removed and the phone then plugs into the fibre box. Does this mean no electricity, no phones?
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Or you can keep paying telkom for you phone line and keep the phone...
 
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