Fibre: Secunda Community

So what are we doing next week Brain?
The same thing we do every week Pinky, try to find out how many contracts 123Net wants.
 
Swa said:
So what are we doing next week Brain?
The same thing we do every week Pinky, try to find out how many contracts 123Net wants.
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10 years later.

So what are we doing tomorrow Brain?
The same thing we do every day Pinky, try to find out how many contracts 123Net wants and pray that they will finally come and install it.
 
i dot understand why Kalin hasnt responded doesnt he have fibre where he is...... then he should know what we are dealing with
 
PJ Kleinsmidt said:
i dot understand why Kalin hasnt responded doesnt he have fibre where he is...... then he should know what we are dealing with
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He might be flying up and down between investors and business partners. CEOs rarely have any time to themselves. Where I work even the Area managers are always busy. And I have to schedule my work around their daily schedules which changes most of the time anyway

Thus is why they appoint others to do things. Their time to address things are limited.

Though I would like to hear about that google plus live chat they talked about and get in on it
 
Alex$The$Alien said:
He might be flying up and down between investors and business partners. CEOs rarely have any time to themselves. Where I work even the Area managers are always busy. And I have to schedule my work around their daily schedules which changes most of the time anyway

Thus is why they appoint others to do things. Their time to address things are limited.

Though I would like to hear about that google plus live chat they talked about and get in on it
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From the issues I have seen raised here, any CEO would step in to calm down the nerves. Even if he is in meetings all over the world. The entire project is busy damaging the name of his company, and the lack of communication is making it even worse. At this rate, all those meetings will mean nothing, as nobody will be willing to support the company
 
DERoestorf said:
From the issues I have seen raised here, any CEO would step in to calm down the nerves. Even if he is in meetings all over the world. The entire project is busy damaging the name of his company, and the lack of communication is making it even worse. At this rate, all those meetings will mean nothing, as nobody will be willing to support the company
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Your point is valid. But I don't agree. Because we the people brought it on and now we're taking a ***** on it because we cant have what we want how we want it. We should be lucky it was even considered in the first place.
 
Alex$The$Alien said:
Your point is valid. But I don't agree. Because we the people brought it on and now we're taking a ***** on it because we cant have what we want how we want it. We should be lucky it was even considered in the first place.
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The problem came in with false promises that was made. Telling a community to do one thing, and when they reach what was requested, suddenly you move the finish line. That is wrong. And that is causing the people to voice their opinion. If this was made clear from the beginning, things would be different, however I could not find any evidence of that. That is why official communication from them are sorely needed. The silence is an indication that they did not believe that the residents would reach the first target. They don't know how to tell the residents that it was just a pipe dream, and thus they are keeping quiet.

But all the while, any other area looking at fibre can see these posts, and the companies reputation is reaching the point of no return
 
DERoestorf said:
The problem came in with false promises that was made. Telling a community to do one thing, and when they reach what was requested, suddenly you move the finish line. That is wrong. And that is causing the people to voice their opinion. If this was made clear from the beginning, things would be different, however I could not find any evidence of that. That is why official communication from them are sorely needed. The silence is an indication that they did not believe that the residents would reach the first target. They don't know how to tell the residents that it was just a pipe dream, and thus they are keeping quiet.

But all the while, any other area looking at fibre can see these posts, and the companies reputation is reaching the point of no return
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Possibly. But I'd rather sit patiently and see what happens. Before I completely give up.
 
Alex$The$Alien said:
Possibly. But I'd rather sit patiently and see what happens. Before I completely give up.
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not telling you to give up. Yo should never give up. But also keep your mind open with alternatives being available.

They were the first to show interest, so they deserve it. but if somebody else can install it first, without having a moving goal, it may be worth exploring
 
DERoestorf said:
not telling you to give up. Yo should never give up. But also keep your mind open with alternatives being available.

They were the first to show interest, so they deserve it. but if somebody else can install it first, without having a moving goal, it may be worth exploring
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I agree. Competition should be allowed. But sure as hell wont support greencom.
 
The sad fact that many don't understand is that if we give up we give up on fibre. That's why I'm hoping they come up with a satisfactory solution. It's just the lack of communication of what's really going on that gets me frustrated.
 
Swa said:
The sad fact that many don't understand is that if we give up we give up on fibre. That's why I'm hoping they come up with a satisfactory solution. It's just the lack of communication of what's really going on that gets me frustrated.
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nope, there are other options available. If you can show the interest, the fibre providers will come.

Best is to set up a survey, showing the spending capacity as well as the interest in fibre. From there, you have got data to work from, to approach the respective suppliers.
 
DERoestorf said:
nope, there are other options available. If you can show the interest, the fibre providers will come.

Best is to set up a survey, showing the spending capacity as well as the interest in fibre. From there, you have got data to work from, to approach the respective suppliers.
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Give the requirements.
 
Here's what the Vuma fanboys don't get. Secunda is 10290 households. I said from the start that it was an anomaly on their system and they can't do it with just 300 signups. Vumatel would want at least 3430 signups and then it's still not a good investment for the density figures.

123Net wanting 500 people taking the service is not unreasonable and with a third of people taking the service that's only 1500 signups. A much better target than what any other provider wants.
 
Swa said:
Here's what the Vuma fanboys don't get.
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HAHAHAHAHAHA says the 123Net fanboy.

Here's what you don't get - the fact of the matter is that Secunda is a small little dorpie in the middle of nowhere. Why arn't any of the fibre providers rolling out in places like Plett or the Garden Route, with arguably the highest concentration of millionaires per square kilometer in the country? The answer is backhaul. There is no data center or point of presence in Secunda (or the Garden route), which means that the residents are going to have to cover the cost of that backhaul.

DFA charges R5 per meter. You do the math.

Telkom is the only company with the existing infrastructure in place to provide that backhaul at a reasonable price - your best bet is to try and get them on board.

I have been watching this thread from a distance for a while, but it's getting a bit ridiculous now. Please, help me to understand your allegiance to 123Net - a company who is flat out ignoring you and changing the goals at every turn.

Having said all that, I do wish you guys all the best. I am sadly in the same situation as you are, and wish we could all have fibre to the home, but South Africa does not have the same infrastructure that places like South Korea or Europe or the States have. You can cry and discuss and argue all you want, but I am afraid that 123Net may have gotten your hopes up when even they did not understand the intricacies of what they were getting themselves into.

That's all I have to say about that - back to you guys
 
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