Fifa frets over 2010 stadiums

Sneeky said:
OK, let take a step back, this government has succeeded where all other governments before it have failed, including those on the African continent!

We were given the world cup to host and from the very outset the naysayers were egging us on to fail.

The FIFA World Cup is probably the second best thing (other than democracy) that has happened to this country and we have people that believe we should be taught a lesson and loose it. How quaint.

The world cup is the single biggest driver in the battle to sort out all our infrastructure woes, including Telecoms, yet people want it to fail. Bizarre!

It is events like this that enable governments to invest massive amounts of money in infrastructure projects.

We have had 2 sets of international visitors from our business partners in the last month, from France and from Germany. Both these groups of people seem confident that the 2010 world cup will be back in Germany. This sickens me.

Failure to host this event is not n option, it will do serious damage to everyone here and the country as a whole.
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This time around it's not naysayers, but FIFA who are concerned. This is also not the first time FIFA have voiced such concerns is it? Screw the naysayers by all means, but if FIFA starts tapping fingers then the excuses should stop and action should start.
 
marine1 said:
They got the option to host not because of any reason other than POLITICS.
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Lets pretend for a moment that that is 100% the only reason why.
How is this a bad thing, where is the horror in it?
 
BobbyMac said:
This time around it's not naysayers, but FIFA who are concerned. This is also not the first time FIFA have voiced such concerns is it? Screw the naysayers by all means, but if FIFA starts tapping fingers then the excuses should stop and action should start.
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Fully agree BobbyMac
 
@ Sneeky Fifa can;t publicly critise SA yet it would affect their ability to attract sponseship etc. If they are going to pull it it will be swift and sudden and more than likely go to australia. They don't need to build any infratructure and have lots of experience in hosting big events like this.
 
There is no horror in that at all however we are not ready for it and we do not deserve it. On paper this country is great. In reality this gvt is creating their own appartheid in certain ways.
 
telkomsuig said:
@ Sneeky Fifa can;t publicly critise SA yet it would affect their ability to attract sponseship etc. If they are going to pull it it will be swift and sudden and more than likely go to australia. They don't need to build any infratructure and have lots of experience in hosting big events like this.
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There have been rumours about this for some time now and it would not surprise me one bit.
 
The saddest comments in this thread are those about how the WC gives the government incentive to improve our infrastructure. How pathetic is it that nothing will happen unless there is some sort of gain to be had by our politicians. If this is the only reason they would improve our infrastructure we truly are lost.
 
marine1 said:
There is no horror in that at all however we are not ready for it and we do not deserve it. On paper this country is great. In reality this gvt is creating their own appartheid in certain ways.
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That is true in a way, but dont you think as a South African you should still support your country?!
 
icyrus said:
The saddest comments in this thread are those about how the WC gives the government incentive to improve our infrastructure. How pathetic is it that nothing will happen unless there is some sort of gain to be had by our politicians. If this is the only reason they would improve our infrastructure we truly are lost.
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Hmm I didn't even think of that and you are absolutely correct. My point stands - what happens after 2010?
 
Well BEE gave GVT unbelieveable scope to to extract "legitimate" bribes from all big projects. The sad thing is it increases the cost of all projects by atleast 25% to be covered by tax payers money...
 
icyrus said:
The saddest comments in this thread are those about how the WC gives the government incentive to improve our infrastructure. How pathetic is it that nothing will happen unless there is some sort of gain to be had by our politicians. If this is the only reason they would improve our infrastructure we truly are lost.
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That the WC gives the government a concrete deadline is undeniable and works in our favour. :)
 
Why should I support a system that does not support me? Come one lets be honest. This gvt as any gvt takes care of its own. I do not fall into that category. Too many people i know have died due to crime and I hold the gvt responsible. If they cannot gaurantee the job they do then they must leave. How can I support a system that discriminates against me ?
 
Suggestion for crime activism. Protest at the FIFA offices, chain yourselves to stadium construction, you should be able to get the ANC party to notice.
 
marine1 said:
Why should I support a system that does not support me? Come one lets be honest. This gvt as any gvt takes care of its own. I do not fall into that category. Too many people i know have died due to crime and I hold the gvt responsible. If they cannot gaurantee the job they do then they must leave. How can I support a system that discriminates against me ?
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Ok I agree this GVt needs to solve the crime issue, but if you are so bitter about living here, why dont you leave?
 
bwana said:
That the WC gives the government a concrete deadline is undeniable and works in our favour. :)
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But it's not working in our favour. Besides for stadiums and an overpriced train in the smallest province in the country, what other new infrastructure is being created for the citizens of this country? Thousands of police and security will ensure the safety of the WC2010 tourists yet our own people are suffering under immense crime that is dismissed as nothing more than a perception by our almost never here and even less available number one citizen. The government created a BEE beast and is now being sued because the "most" BEE'd contender was not selected in the tendering process:
In essence, it says its price was the lowest, its black empowerment element the strongest and it should have been awarded the tender.
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As for the deadline, FIFA is growing concerned about this gvt even meeting that deadline.
 
telkomsuig said:
@ Sneeky Fifa can;t publicly critise SA yet it would affect their ability to attract sponseship etc. If they are going to pull it it will be swift and sudden and more than likely go to australia. They don't need to build any infratructure and have lots of experience in hosting big events like this.
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Incorrect, the cup goes back to Germany, the previous host country. Australia, having hosted the Olympics would obviously kick up a fuss, as ozzies tend to do :) , but Germany would be the one.

icyrus said:
The saddest comments in this thread are those about how the WC gives the government incentive to improve our infrastructure. How pathetic is it that nothing will happen unless there is some sort of gain to be had by our politicians. If this is the only reason they would improve our infrastructure we truly are lost.
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Hi Icyrus, the intial comment and yours are valid, but this type/size of investment does not happen without a driver.
If the guv had to say they wanted to build a couple of stadiums, improve roads, electricity, telecoms etc etc all in one go there would be a national outcry and endless debates on how much money where and when would be spent. The world cup provides the incentive for all parties, opposition included, to buy into the concept and support the expense, it aint cheap.

We all know that we have infrastructure issues, these are due to poor planning by the respective departments and an economic growth that has exceeded expectations. As Thabo says, these are growing pains.
At MyADSL we are all very critical of our telecoms infrastructure and rightly so, this event will hopefully show up the slackers for what they are as we cannot afford to fail this time.
 
Rex Regis said:
Ok I agree this GVt needs to solve the crime issue, but if you are so bitter about living here, why dont you leave?
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As stated before - one needs either money or maybe job offers. Trust me I am working on it. I recently watched a show on History channel about Mad dog Mugabe and you could have just changed the names and it was like watching South Africa and the future of this place. Scary
 
BobbyMac said:
But it's not working in our favour. Besides for stadiums and an overpriced train in the smallest province in the country, what other new infrastructure is being created for the citizens of this country? Thousands of police and security will ensure the safety of the WC2010 tourists yet our own people are suffering under immense crime that is dismissed as nothing more than a perception by our almost never here and even less available number one citizen. The government created a BEE beast and is now being sued because the "most" BEE'd contender was not selected in the tendering process:
As for the deadline, FIFA is growing concerned about this gvt even meeting that deadline.
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You mean we wont benefit from the improved security, digital tv, communications, etc as required by fifa?

The new police etc will mean employment - and not just for when the cup is on. New stadiums mean jobs - maintaining stadiums mean jobs- all the tourists mean jobs. The way I see it every person employed means one less bugger getting up to no good.

So yeah - I think we're better off having the world cup even though I cant stand the sport. ;)
 
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