'Fifa is an organised crime setup'

[capetownguy]

I just read that MATCH has broke even, thats all.

 

[MidnightWizard]

PASE

Using FIFA as the scapegoat is becoming both stale and lame. So 2006.

I am sure it is .........

Just ask Martin Welz editor of NOSEWEEK

"Ladies and gentlemen, meet the 2010 Circus Strongman." Sepp Blatter and Jérôme Valcke ripped off their ties, glued warm smiles on their faces and bamboozled 20 foreign reporters into believing that the tickets disaster overwhelming the SA World Cup was the responsibility of somebody, anybody, but NOT them.
The question on everyone's lips now is:
Will the stadia be filled and who will they be - locals or foreigners?

The CONFUSION is also so 2006


MW

 

[LancelotSA]

Just ask Martin Welz editor of NOSEWEEK

The CONFUSION is also so 2006

May I ask what exactly your post proves? I might be missing the point so please help me out. Is it that the editor of Noseweek shares your sentiments regarding FIFA? If so wow, that must make all you say true.

Pity you don't subscribe so you could share the entire story with us...

 

[capetownguy]

Noseweek has written rubbish before, and while they do try to be original and controversial have been no better than other sensationalist newspapers e.g. Cape Argus.

Although I'm also not sure what your point is.

2.5 million of the 2.7 million are now sold, if not more. Matches between Honduras/Chile/Slovakia/NZ are just not going to be sold out. Thats all

 

[MidnightWizard]

Subscribed

May I ask what exactly your post proves?
I might be missing the point so please help me out.
Is it that the editor of Noseweek shares your sentiments regarding FIFA?
If so wow, that must make all you say true.
Pity you don't subscribe so you could share the entire story with us...

NOTHING is as it seems -- just ask "The men who stare at Goats"

Mr Welz is regarded in the industry as a very good and honourable investigative journalist -- who has weathered many a legal challenge

So I guess what he says MUST be true -- otherwise challenge him in court.

For me to share subscription information with you ( copy and paste ) would be unethical.

IF you would like to read the whole article just pop into Exclusive and read it over a cup of coffee --
then you can purchase the magazine --
and then take out your OWN subscription.

MW

 

[MidnightWizard]

Fully Booked

2.5 million of the 2.7 million are now sold, if not more.
Matches between Honduras/Chile/Slovakia/NZ are just not going to be sold out.
Thats all

You know this -- HOW ?

Will the stadia be filled ? and who will they be - locals or foreigners ?

Postulate One -- WILL they be full ? Apparently so -- but can we see the OFFICIAL figures please.

Postulate Two -- WILL they be local or foreign ? -- perhaps more locals ? -- Like I said confusion and counter arguments.

MY postulate -- will the figures and data ( Gate takings / *MONEY* ) ever be transparently available to the SA public ?


MW

 

[capetownguy]

You know this -- HOW ?

2.2 million of 2.7 million sold before the April Phase. I have a detailed breakdown of ticketing in ppt before the April Phase.

Of the 500,000 made available during the April Phase approximately 200,000 tickets unsold.

Then I do some mathematics.

Ticket sales are not a major part of revenues. As I've said before the LOC set a 60% target in its income and revenue statement, which has already been exceeded.

Of course there will be more locals after

1. Recession
2. Recession
3. Price hilkes
4. Inflated prices in general due to MATCH creating a false sense of a "shortage"

 

[MidnightWizard]

Referee

Of course there will be more locals after

4. Inflated prices in general due to MATCH creating a false sense of a "shortage"

Perhaps explained by

Player and Referee
Conflicting Interests and the 2010 FIFA World Cup (TM) Edited by Collette Schulz Herzenberg ISS Monograph Series No 169, April 2010

MW

 

[Hosehead]

Now I read that FIFA is going to give away tickets to the construction workers who built the Stadiums.

Blowing vuvuzelas wrapped in the country’s national flag colours, the workers were in a jubilant mood after 2010 Local Organising Committee (LOC) CEO Danny Jordaan announced to them that each and everyone of them would be given “double tickets” for the historic opening match at the iconic Soccer City stadium. Also in attendance was Fifa’s Jerome Valcke and Johannesburg mayor Amos Masondo

http://www.citizen.co.za/index/article.aspx?pDesc=124941,1,22

At least 52 000 tickets have been set aside for construction workers to watch the opening match between South Africa and Mexico on 11 June.

The initiative is part of FIFA's ticket fund, that will also see 66 000 World Cup tickets being distributed to several organisations focusing on health, education and environmental issues.
FIFA Secretary General Jerome Valcke, speaking to workers at Soccer City stadium on Monday, said the world football body had recognised that not all South Africans would be able to afford tickets for Africa's first ever World Cup.

"So we took a decision that this must be an African world cup and hence FIFA and our official partners are making these tickets available to South Africans," Valcke said.

FIFA also recognised that without the hard work and extra hours put up by the workers, South Africa would probably not have met some of the infrastructure deadlines ahead of the tournament.

"You have not only built stadiums, you build beautiful stadiums, the world is amazed by your work -well done!" said Valcke, who has been in South Africa since 2007 when work in most of the 2010 stadiums was only beginning.

An equally excited LOC CEO Danny Jordaan said the country would be doing an injustice if it did not recognise the stunning work done by the workers on the stadiums across all of the host cities.

http://www.buanews.gov.za/news/10/10050316251001

 

[LancelotSA]

Now I read that FIFA is going to give away tickets to the construction workers who built the Stadiums. http://www.citizen.co.za/index/article.aspx?pDesc=124941,1,22

That was always the case!

An article from September 2008 : http://modernoptimist.co.za/free-world-cup-tickets-for-stadium-construction-workers

It also mentions that it was always the intention of FIFA to give away a large number of tickets. From that same Sept 2008 article :

The workers ticket forms part of the 120 000 bulk free tickets allocated for South African residents.

 

[Hosehead]

That's a good thing. So out of 120,000 allocated as Freebies there's still aprox 32,000 tickets still to be allocated. Who gets those?

 

[LancelotSA]

That's a good thing. So out of 120,000 allocated as Freebies there's still aprox 32,000 tickets still to be allocated. Who gets those?

....

Leslie Sedide said two million tickets would be made available to the general public for the World Cup, while 120 000 more tickets were set aside to be given away for free to ’nation builders’. According to a report on the IoL site, Sedide said this would likely include people who had built stadiums and roads before the World Cup.

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=3045&art_id=nw20080904125217916C564634

Around 120 000 of the lowest-priced tickets for the 2010 World Cup in South Africa will be given away to allow the country's poorer people to watch, organisers announced on Friday.

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=6&click_id=19&art_id=nw20080307133021317C678899

And both those quotes are from 2008 articles so I really don't get why people are now jumping up and down saying that FIFA is needing to give away tickets to fill stadiums.

 

[capetownguy]

SMME's have and still have tons of opportunities. You should see the CoCT tenders.

If some of them had bothered forming evenings companies 5-6 years ago or even just small construction companies, they would have been able to benefit from these tenders.

Don't expect a new company with no experience to be handed a major project.

There is also a case for using large companies which provide good benefits for workers and can employ more works.

 

[MidnightWizard]

Discrimination

I wonder ..........

How many tickets the

Civil Engineers
Quantity Surveyos
Structural Engineers
Architects
Structure and Stress engineers
Soil Scientists
Actuaries
Chartered Accountants
Aviation Industry Specialists
Structural Steel Specialists
Mechanical Engineers
ICT Engineers
Electronics Specialists

OK -- You get the idea

I wonder

Are they ALSO wukkers


MW

 

[capetownguy]

Good Point. I hope they get i-ticket too.