Fight against SA's Affirmative Action

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Trade union Solidarity today presented the draft complaint about affirmative action it intends to bring before the United Nations later this year. In terms of the Solidarity complaint, the South African government is contravening a UN convention that prohibits all forms of race discrimination. The complaint focuses on government’s use of the national race demography as a quota policy.

The complaint takes the form of a shadow report that will be submitted to the UN’s Committee on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination (CERD).

Solidarity today also started a two month long public process to obtain input from South Africans across the entire racial and political spectrum in order to reflect the opinion of a broad spectrum of South Africans in the report.

Once the public consultation has been completed the report will be finalised and formally submitted to the UN in August 2015.

CERD makes provision for civil society organisations to report a government to it by means of a shadow report submitted in response to that particular government’s own report to CERD.

“This is the first time since 1994 that the South African government would stand accused of racial discrimination before the United Nations. In essence, the complaint is that the South African government’s absolute focus on race representivity is in conflict with CERD’s provisions. The state’s race policies go beyond what is internationally allowed and no longer comply with international requirements for affirmative action,” Solidarity Chief Executive, Dirk Hermann, said.

Hermann explains that the complaint against government contained in the shadow report goes beyond Solidarity and its members. “We are addressing an issue that affects all South Africans and one that has become a burning issue for all, irrespective of race. South Africans across the board are tired of a poor police service due to an excessive focus on race; they believe it to be grossly unfair to apply the national demography in the Western Cape; and they believe it is absurd to drive away skills at Eskom by using an aggressive quota system amid an electricity crisis. Therefore, we are expecting support from all quarters during our public consultation process,” Hermann said.

Government’s policy of quotas based on race cannot be defined as affirmative action but rather as a form of neo-racialism that is not acceptable anywhere in the world.

Some of the main points contained in Solidarity’s complaint against government’s neo-racialism are that:

• Different silos are created for different race and gender groups;
• Government wants to create a future through social engineering;
• Race classification is yet again being institutionalised in South Africa;
• Race distinction has become the basis for decision making;
• The focus is not on past disadvantage but only on race;
• There is no sunset clause because the race demography is constantly changing;
• Focus on training and the development of people is lacking while the focus is only on mathematical outcomes; and
• Race quotas are pursued without regard to service delivery.

In contrast, international affirmative action practices stipulate that:

• No silos may be created and that class should also be considered, while race may only be used in extreme cases;
• Past disadvantage is redressed wholly and not just mathematically;
• The institutionalisation of forms of racial qualification be guarded against;
• With a view to using merit only, there should be a sunset clause that doesn’t go beyond what is needed;
• A variety of factors must be considered, which include equity, individual merit, and operational requirements;
• The focus should be on training and development of people as main method of redress; and that
• The focus should be on proper service delivery as a form of redress particularly for the poor.

South Africa’s programme of race representivity, therefore, doesn’t meet the definition of affirmative action.
 
We are the first country ever where AA has been used against the minority.

Imagine, they have a massive majority in numbers and occupy a massive majority of the jobs, yet still implement AA against the tiny minority.

Reverse racism and blatant discrimination.
 
The only country in the world where the thick majority need protection from a very small minority. Idiots and fools need to be looked after.
 
We are the first country ever where AA has been used against the minority.

Imagine, they have a massive majority in numbers and occupy a massive majority of the jobs, yet still implement AA against the tiny minority.

Reverse racism and blatant discrimination.

I disagree, AA is about economic status and white people are still the majority in terms of wealth, education and employment.
 
The only country in the world where the thick majority need protection from a very small minority. Idiots and fools need to be looked after.
Errr wasn't this minority you speak of oppressing the majority just over 20 years ago?
 
The only country in the world where the thick majority need protection from a very small minority. Idiots and fools need to be looked after.

It is the "unthicking" of the majority, that will normalise our social stratification ...- how the hell we get there..well, your guess is as good as mine...-education is the great parity enabler...have the cash, but no vision, no political will to fix the mess that is public education...AA should have had statues of limitations, by now we should have been spitting out a stream of well educated South Africans, of all colour...competing on even footing...-but reality, we stuck with AA, and the bitching from both sides...gods we have useless leaders! does no one look beyond their now, and to the future of the nation?
 
I disagree, AA is about economic status and white people are still the majority in terms of wealth, education and employment.

How many times I've seen a single white engineer commanding an army of black labourers doing repairs to our railway tracks using some sophisticated machinery. His salary quite possibly adds up to all of the labourers combined.

If this is the economic status they want to change, then why not replace the engineer with a black engineer, and the labourers with whites. No. You know why? Because like the article states:

Focus on training and the development of people is lacking while the focus is only on mathematical outcomes

In other words: Quotas. Number of blacks vs white. That white engineer will stay right where he is and white economic status will stay right where it is. That's the hard truth.
 
Bill Clinton got head in the Oval office, and they impeached him so fast he didn't know what hit him. In South Africa we had a guy with fraud and rape charges against him, yet he ended up president after the president at the time was usurped.

Alas it's the minorities fault though.

Not the president who stole and continues to steal millions from tax payers.
Not the ANC cronies living a life of luxury getting around in their own personal blue light brigades
Not officials who have let our infrastructure fall apart and done nothing in twenty years
Not the Zulu chiefs and ANC members inciting violence against African foreigners
Not the laughing idiots who paraded Mandela around like a mascot before elections

No, it is the average white man on the street's fault. He must be ostracized and driven into the sea.
 
I disagree, AA is about economic status and white people are still the majority in terms of wealth, education and employment.

Which race people are leading the population growth rate? Then you also need to do an individual break down in comparison to it's respective race group to see where individuals are in standing. To take this BusinessTech article:

http://businesstech.co.za/news/general/82287/how-many-bee-millionaires-are-in-south-africa/

High-net-worth individuals (HNWIs):

This equates to 31% of the country’s total HNWI population, according to the 3rd annual wealth report on South Africa, entitled the “South Africa 2015 Wealth Report”, published by New World Wealth.

A NHWI is person with wealth of US$1 million or more, whilst a multi-millionaire is an individual with wealth of at least US$10 million.

“Wealth” is defined as the net value of assets, which includes financial holdings, business interests and tangible assets. The only item excluded from NWW’s valuation is primary residences.

Out of a total 46,800 HNWIs in SA in 2014, 32,100 are white, representing 69%, while 9,800, are either Indian, Asian or coloured representing 21%, and 4,900, or 10%, are African.

Then to take this in regard,

However, a previous New World Wealth report showed that SA had 7,800 millionaires from previously disadvantaged groups in 2013 – equating to only 16% of South Africa’s total millionaire population.

This means that the number of millionaires from previously disadvantaged groups has also doubled between 2013 – 2014.

Read the article to see the illustrated NHWI tables, then also to take note that the Chinese (as in China) is rapidly investing into SA. When you do look at the numbers game, the white people in SA are becoming poorer over the long term. Previous disadvantaged people are extensively growing by wealth and we may see another huge increase in 2015 where it had doubled in 2014. By 2016 there may be more NHWI previously disadvantaged people than white NHWI's, attached to a massive population with little opportunity, the economic status is screwed where many enrichment schemes are pure corruption.
 
It is the "unthicking" of the majority, that will normalise our social stratification ...- how the hell we get there..well, your guess is as good as mine...-education is the great parity enabler...have the cash, but no vision, no political will to fix the mess that is public education...AA should have had statues of limitations, by now we should have been spitting out a stream of well educated South Africans, of all colour...competing on even footing...-but reality, we stuck with AA, and the bitching from both sides...gods we have useless leaders! does no one look beyond their now, and to the future of the nation?

Let's go sit under a tree and drink beer, buy another Mercedes-Benz, rape a woman, have a shower to prevent aids.
Eish the beer is warm. What to do? Ahhhh let's go kill someone for their fridge. We do not pay, it is owed to us. Give me more.
 
What do they expect the UN to do exactly?

Maybe they want the UN to ban employment equity. Which means ban it everywhere else in the world too. Might as well ban all forms of redress while at it and open a large hospital to perform lobotomies to sort out racism
 
I don't think UN is going to do anything for Afriforum, they've never done anything about anything before.
 
Errr wasn't this minority you speak of oppressing the majority just over 20 years ago?

No. That minority has mostly died out by now.

What do they think the UN will do? The same clowns love Mugabe.
 
Whether the UN actually doesn't anything is not really the point. I'm guessing that people would hope that it would but that's not the real world.

But it becomes a useful barb. Every time that cases of discrimination end up in the labour courts there will be the fact that a case is lodged with the UN to add to arguments. It will add weight to the 'unfairness' claims.
 
The UN won't do squat, meanwhile SA still keeps hurtling down a slope to oblivion.
 
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