Firefox getting sloppy?

If anything, Open Source is better supported. Software is developed by people who willingly give up their time for something they are passionate about, rather than being paid to be there.
 
halicon said:
more like it is infected with another highly overrated open source product with poor support and a geek community too blinded with misty zeal to consider making it work on the most used operating system in the world.

the above reason is the main reason why Linux and other open source initiatives will ALWAYS be overshadowed by products you can buy.
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The true agenda always becomes apparent in the end :rolleyes:.
BTW, although I am aware of criticisms against Firefox (i.e. that it is becoming bloated etc.), it has all the features I require and it is extremely extensible, precisely because it is FOSS. Isn't freedom of choice wonderful?
 
BTTB said:
On a serious note, although I am not agreeing with Halicon, but my Firefox is also a bit sluggish. Not to the extent of unreliability as in Halicon's case, but it does seem like it hangs every now and then.

Anti Virus, Firewall perhaps Halicon?
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Also having problems and I never thought I'd say this but I'm seriously considering removing it
:(
 
Highflyer_GP said:
It works fine for me, but ever since FF2 it's been hogging RAM like crazy.
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I like FFox, it's my default browser. But yes, FF2 is known to eat a bit of RAM. I love FFox because you can customise everything, thanks to all the Add-ons/plugins.
However, if you have add-ons installed that you don't need, uninstall them since they simply hog the memory even more. But all in all, I prefer FFox over IE, no doubt!

Add-ons I can't live without:
Adblock Plus
Mouse Gestures (ooh yeah!)
Tab Mix Plus
Webmail Notifier
Free Download Manager plugin
DOM inspector
OPML support

These 2 are nice but will only really be worth using when we get faster broadband speeds:
Cooliris previews (previews sites when hover over link, opens small window)
PicLens (turns e.g. Google Images search into proper slideshow)
 
Usually its the add-ons causing the hassle. E.g. If you're running the adblock plus add-on it slow down the FF startup because the loading of the filter list is inefficient.

Try uninstalling it and then reinstalling.

I must however admit that there is more sluggishness since FF2. I think someone messed up the threading.
 
ld13 said:
Now why do you say that? What is so overrated about FF? :confused:
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It has very few features, one of the only reasons to use it (or for it to be considered a good browser) is the extensions.
And that it's main competition is IE which just makes it look good. :)

I used to use it until version 2 came out.. and then the beta versions of FF3, and still there were nearly no new features. Without the new skin you would easily mistake FF 0.9 for FF3.
 
I'm partially using Firefox 3 beta and to be honest I've barely noticed any difference between it and FF2, and I never noticed any difference between that and FF1... That's not to say that I don't like it though...
 
I would add the following extensions

Fasterfox (for people with decent PC's) - makes FF very resource aggressive. Makes it fly though
Extended Statusbar - because I want to know.
Showcase - tile view all your open windows/tabs
Free download manager plug-in
Dictionaries - For us forum trolls who cant spell.
 
Ekhaatvensters said:
I used to use it until version 2 came out.. and then the beta versions of FF3, and still there were nearly no new features. Without the new skin you would easily mistake FF 0.9 for FF3.
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So every new version MUST have new features or be complete different? That's what happened with a few really nice programs, each new version it juts gets more and more features, turning it into bloatware. No thank you! I like the Firefox way where you get the basic program and you add extra functionality through the extensions. Not like a certain other big software company that forces every damn thing they regard as functionality down your throat. :D
 
qinglung said:
So every new version MUST have new features or be complete different? That's what happened with a few really nice programs, each new version it juts gets more and more features, turning it into bloatware. No thank you! I like the Firefox way where you get the basic program and you add extra functionality through the extensions. Not like a certain other big software company that forces every damn thing they regard as functionality down your throat. :D
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I'd use Opera as an example; they add new features with every release and the software remains relatively unbloated and smaller/faster than FF with hundreds more features.

Seeing as FF relies on extensions they don't need to add that much, but they seem to do very little and extensions aren't always the best way to get your features, they add their own bloat too. FF's main "innovation" was tabbed browsing which Opera invented a few years before FF was released.

I still like FF, but I do think it is over rated.
 
Ekhaatvensters said:
It has very few features, one of the only reasons to use it (or for it to be considered a good browser) is the extensions.
And that it's main competition is IE which just makes it look good. :)
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Heh - I will have to disagree.
If the ability to use extensions is not the uber-feature, then I don't know what else you could want.
Just by allowing those, FF effectively has every possible feature already.
 
Ekhaatvensters said:
I'd use Opera as an example; they add new features with every release and the software remains relatively unbloated and smaller/faster than FF with hundreds more features.
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I'll give it a try sometime. :)

Ekhaatvensters said:
extensions aren't always the best way to get your features, they add their own bloat too.
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Yeah, I agree it's not the best way. Having all the features you want coded into the actual program would obviously make it faster and more efficient (depending on the programmers... they could make it worse :p). It is an easy way for end users to add what they want. The difficult way would be an option of recompiling FF with all the added functions that you want, but I can't see many people doing it.
 
Moederloos said:
Heh - I will have to disagree.
If the ability to use extensions is not the uber-feature, then I don't know what else you could want.
Just by allowing those, FF effectively has every possible feature already.
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Well then if that is FF's only feature I would call it over rated. Like qinglung said, extensions check for updates every week or so and you constantly redownload them because they arent properly tested or written in some cases. Having those features built into the program is more efficient, and it doesn't have to make it very bloated.

If other browers decided to add extensions in the same way that FF does, then I woulnd't see the attraction to FF. But people will still call it the best browser there is. What really gets to me are those banners that say "Stop using your crappy browser and switch to FF". :mad: :p
 
Ekhaatvensters said:
Having those features built into the program is more efficient, and it doesn't have to make it very bloated.
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Except that we all use different extensions... For me, the web developer toolbar is the most useful extension, but it's not something that everyone needs. If you're not a web developer its just going to be bloat for you.

No thanks, rather give me a bare browser with the ability to add the features that I need.
 
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