Firefox usage

Pasting in Gmail

Aha!! Found the thing that irritated me earlier w.r.t. Firefox and gmail.

Compose a new message in gmail (using FF). Then copy some text and try pasting it (using right click). It doesn't work. Unless I am doing something very stupid, FF is a piece of junk. IE works perfectly.

I pray for IE with tabbed browsing!
 
IE Tabbed is called Maxthon. Do a google search for it.

Tested Firefox in GMail. Ctrl+V worked for pasting.
 
beyers said:
Aha!! Found the thing that irritated me earlier w.r.t. Firefox and gmail.

Compose a new message in gmail (using FF). Then copy some text and try pasting it (using right click). It doesn't work. Unless I am doing something very stupid, FF is a piece of junk. IE works perfectly.

I pray for IE with tabbed browsing!
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Are you talking about this: http://www.mozilla.org/editor/midasdemo/securityprefs.html

CTRL+V works
 
Diago said:
IE Tabbed is called Maxthon. Do a google search for it.

Tested Firefox in GMail. Ctrl+V worked for pasting.
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thanks.

ctrl V works indeed - I am just so used to right click
 
Ok, also tested right click pasting. It work when not using Rich Text Formatting in GMail, Ctrl+V still works when using RTF.

As far as right clicking is concerned I am aware of a few applications that I use regularly that doesn't support, nor does most Linux applications and definetly not any of the PDA's I have worked on to date.
 
Diago said:
As far as right clicking is concerned I am aware of a few applications that I use regularly that doesn't support, nor does most Linux applications and definetly not any of the PDA's I have worked on to date.
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OK, but still, I was just surprised (and irritated ...) that right click pasting does not work for such a general and widely used application such as gmail, in FF.

Maybe they did it to protect users' private information as they say in nic777's link, but it can't be too much of a factor if it is possible in IE.
 
You actually use the extra 1.12563 seconds to right-click and click paste? I never use right-click - and what about the rss feeds thingy in firefox? can ie do that? what about multi-platform support? (ok - i know that you get ie for mac) and how about the little icons next to each tab? Give me a reason except for the cache problem on why ie is better.
 
It is indeed quite possible that the problems I experience with FF is a personal thing (i.e. my preference for right click). Other problems I experience I described earlier: erroneous pasting in excell, frequently not opening links, FF program becomes very slow sometimes.

IE without tabbed browsing is not nice, hence I need FF for the time being (I am not sure about the Maxthon option yet). When IE brings out tabbed browsing, I wil definitely migrate (they wil probably also include all the nice aspects of FF - without the irritants). Also, I suspect that only a small portion of users will stay with FF when this happens - IMHO.
 
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If IE is better, sure, move away. If FF is better stay. Very simple really. It is a free market. Probably one of the few truly free markets.

:D
 
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I agree that it's a user choice. However I rarely use the tabbed interface since I feel it's an overkill. As far as finding FF faster I do, as well as being as stable as IE. Being a developer I have to test any sites I design in both, and FF has become my default browser out of choice.
 
Diago said:
I agree that it's a user choice. However I rarely use the tabbed interface since I feel it's an overkill. As far as finding FF faster I do, as well as being as stable as IE. Being a developer I have to test any sites I design in both, and FF has become my default browser out of choice.
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Yep - me too.

What drives me mad is iexplores half-assed CSS2 support - you can do some really fantastic things in mozilla that are part of the CSS2 standards that just don't work in iexplore.

Unfortunately, that means I can't use them, because my clients all use iexplore.

Apparently, iexplore 7 is still not going to fully support CSS2 for reasons only microshaft know.

I'll get iexplore 7 when it's out, but only because I have to for design purposes - I'm betting on it being about 70mb in filesize - although for the life of me, I have NO idea why microshaft can bloat a piece of software quite so badly, considering firefox is under 5mb !
 
Agreed. I think css is driving me nuts at the moment as there is some awesome site designs and functionality available which can be easily implemented, yet cross browser they start to cause hassles. Throw Opera into the mix and you have a recipe for true disaster and hours of bug fixing, having to make sure that it is compatible across the board.

As for size, both FF and Opera are less then 6MB. (Have to look at Opera as it seems to be the browser of choice on Symbian based PDA's). I am a .Net developer and fairly open minded but I do think IE is one of M$ failures compared to some of their other products that have definitly improved.
 
bb_matt said:
II have NO idea why microshaft can bloat a piece of software quite so badly, considering firefox is under 5mb !
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Internet Exploder is not a monolithic single program like FireFox but consist of a shell that ties together a few ActiveX components which is used by various MS and third party apps.

Internet Exploder alsol came with Microsoft's Java VM implementation which they no longer support.
 
I use firefox and I like it!

I use firefox and I like it, it's much faster than IE.
 
Diago said:
Agreed. I think css is driving me nuts at the moment as there is some awesome site designs and functionality available which can be easily implemented, yet cross browser they start to cause hassles. Throw Opera into the mix and you have a recipe for true disaster and hours of bug fixing, having to make sure that it is compatible across the board.

As for size, both FF and Opera are less then 6MB. (Have to look at Opera as it seems to be the browser of choice on Symbian based PDA's). I am a .Net developer and fairly open minded but I do think IE is one of M$ failures compared to some of their other products that have definitly improved.
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I don't even bother with Opera - firstly, it's not free and secondly, it's got such a minute support base, I don't waste my time on it.

These days, just iexplore and mozilla.

Years back I was almost religious about my designs and layouts - making sure they not only worked in all the browsers, but past versions and different Operating systems ( - the whole "degrade gracefully" thing - )

I do check my sites in lynx and if they can be read and navigated there, then I'm happy enough.

I don't have the time to make sure my sites will work on a cell phone - if clients were willing to throw in an extra few grand per job, I would :D
 
*nods at bb_matt*

Agreed. I only starting looking at Opera because on some of the site's I am working on I have a few international visitors who use it as well. I guess all developers after a few years get tired of trying to remain cross browser since it is a task that keeps getting more difficult. W3C doesn't seem to have created much of a standard. I was surprised to find a lot of my sites working in Linux and with minimal changes needed to two of them.

At the end of the day as previously stated it is a free user market, and it's the same issue as trying to deal with screen resolutions. I think web developers have a pretty hard job trying to please everyone, since there is always 5% of visitors or users that will not be able to use everything available on a site.
 
Diago said:
*nods at bb_matt*

Agreed. I only starting looking at Opera because on some of the site's I am working on I have a few international visitors who use it as well. I guess all developers after a few years get tired of trying to remain cross browser since it is a task that keeps getting more difficult. W3C doesn't seem to have created much of a standard. I was surprised to find a lot of my sites working in Linux and with minimal changes needed to two of them.

At the end of the day as previously stated it is a free user market, and it's the same issue as trying to deal with screen resolutions. I think web developers have a pretty hard job trying to please everyone, since there is always 5% of visitors or users that will not be able to use everything available on a site.
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CSS is making things a bit easier - I'm trying to wean myself of Tables and work with DIV tags and CSS instead - check out this site :-

http://www.alistapart.com

very useful !
 
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